Sony Found an ''Anonymous'' File on SOE Servers

[gm0n3y]

[citation][nom]bluekoala[/nom]I don't know what's so hard to understand about:Sony f***ed with the internet and then the internet f***ked with it. This basically ruins PSN's credibility. Most people have credit card insurance anyway.The victims are not the customers nearly as much as Sony itself. I don't know why anonymous or any other would be to blame for this when Sony was clearly playing with the laws of nature.If anything, we need much more of this crap to happen to have corps handle themselves appropriately because the governments are too corrupt to regulate them and protect consumer interests. PSN is down. For the best interest of America. Deal with it, play PC games.[/citation]
+1

 

[gm0n3y]

[citation][nom]tsnorquist[/nom]It's this type of thinking that enables people to partake in criminal behavior. They realize if/when caught, there isn't going to be a harsh penalty for their actions.[/citation]
You do realize that statistically the level of punishment for a crime has almost no correlation to the number of people committing the crime. Criminals do not believe they are going to be caught, so they don't care about punishments. Any criminal that thinks they might get caught wouldn't commit the crime in the first place. There is actually often a correlation between shorter sentences and less repeat offenders. It seems that leaving people in jail for a long time is more likely to turn them into career criminals.

 

[twist3d1080]

[citation][nom]gm0n3y[/nom]You do realize that statistically the level of punishment for a crime has almost no correlation to the number of people committing the crime. Criminals do not believe they are going to be caught, so they don't care about punishments. Any criminal that thinks they might get caught wouldn't commit the crime in the first place. There is actually often a correlation between shorter sentences and less repeat offenders. It seems that leaving people in jail for a long time is more likely to turn them into career criminals.[/citation]

Yeah duh, have anyone of you watched those scary prison shows? The longer your in the more fucked up you get.

 

[COLGeek]

Amateurs....regarding the hackers and leaving any sort of planted info.

Same goes to Sony for having a vulnerable system and for not being able to counter the attack to start with.

For customers, this is a warning for all of us who allow sites (no matter how trustworthy) to maintain CC info. Since the threat is constant, consumers need to be vigilant to monitor your accounts for illicit charges.

HOOAH!!!

 

[dekyos]

Anonymous is by in large incapable of an attack this sophisticated. All they have ever done historically is DoS attacks, why would they change their M.O. now? It's a Red Herring placed there by the people who did the attack because they knew Anonymous was at the time DoS attacking Sony and that Sony would be guillable enough to believe the file was placed there by Anonymous.

Meanwhile the real perpetrators have less to worry about now because Sony is stupid enough to go for the ruse. Good job! Sony deserved it anyway, having such lax security, and then blaming the ENTIRE BREACH on the fact that they were "distracted" by the Anonymous DoS attacks when the real attack occurred.

 

[zak876]

[citation][nom]_Cubase_[/nom]This.[/citation]
ARE u kidding!!??.....Anon is not responsible so they have no wrong to make right.............poor sony. they may even be desparate for some help from Anon now but Anon wont help HA HAH HA HA

 

[griffed88]

I smell a movie coming out of this.

Pitch Anonymous as a cohesive group, and go with a whole "steal from the rich, give to the poor" type of theme. Seriously, with Anonymous's motto the marketing for it practically creates itself.

"Anonymous" in theatres 2012.

 

[dalethepcman]

If sony lost 12.3 million credit card numbers then they deserve to have 12.3 million fines for not following PCI compliance, and either not storing or encrypting CC info.

As for Anon doing this, they don't have the proper motive. and are most likely some of the biggest users of the PSN. This is something most likely done by an organized crime syndicate from the previous USSR or China.

 

[badaxe2]

[citation][nom]bluekoala[/nom]I don't know what's so hard to understand about:Sony f***ed with the internet and then the internet f***ked with it. This basically ruins PSN's credibility. Most people have credit card insurance anyway.The victims are not the customers nearly as much as Sony itself. I don't know why anonymous or any other would be to blame for this when Sony was clearly playing with the laws of nature.If anything, we need much more of this crap to happen to have corps handle themselves appropriately because the governments are too corrupt to regulate them and protect consumer interests. PSN is down. For the best interest of America. Deal with it, play PC games.[/citation]


Ok, but Sony's EULA clearly states not to modify the system software or hardware (aside from the swappable HDD). Whether people like it or not, consoles aren't meant to be customizable like PC's. That's what makes them consoles; the fact that everything is the same to ensure security, compatibility, and to simply make sure everyone is on the same page.

Sony even tried to open things up further with the Other OS feature, but realized the inevitable problems that would cause. Ironic how they tried to make their system as secure as possible and it ended up getting blown wide open anyways. But to imply that it was basically their fault is ignoring the fact that it would've never happened if people were able to just respect their boundaries. The same goes for pretty much anything in life.

 

[hanrak]

[citation][nom]badaxe2[/nom]Ok, but Sony's EULA clearly states not to modify the system software or hardware (aside from the swappable HDD). Whether people like it or not, consoles aren't meant to be customizable like PC's. That's what makes them consoles; the fact that everything is the same to ensure security, compatibility, and to simply make sure everyone is on the same page. Sony even tried to open things up further with the Other OS feature, but realized the inevitable problems that would cause. Ironic how they tried to make their system as secure as possible and it ended up getting blown wide open anyways. But to imply that it was basically their fault is ignoring the fact that it would've never happened if people were able to just respect their boundaries. The same goes for pretty much anything in life.[/citation]

Do SONY respect other peoples boundaries? For example starwars galaxy's the MMO was made and owned by SONY. They destroyed it in face of millions of people saying no. Ok that may not be legal boundaries as it was owned by them but they shit on people and crossed their personal boundaries and have been for a long loooong time.

That is one example of SONY i could go on and on about this multi billion pound corporation attacking your average joe with who has nothing.

People have had enough of mega corporations telling them what they should and should not do and picking on little individuals. They/We are fighting back, good luck to them i say.

 

[x3style]

[citation][nom]LOLing[/nom]Well, there are things called undelete, and they can be done to any system and hard drive if you have it in your physical possession. I guess these kids didn't plan on that. LOL! This is why Sony hired a forensics team. They can get things off of burned up hard drives. Retrieving a file off a non-dead hard drive isn't going to be a problem. The thing is... Most people supported jail breaking and everything until this. The support for GeoHot (GeoNot) has gone in to the toilet. Because they aren't truly affecting a big company they are only hurting the people who use the services. Unlike his little stunt with jail breaking. This is considered criminal mischief as well as cyber terrorism. And since he announced he was joining with Anon... I guess they'll show up at his house eventually. Because unless these guys did more than just cover their tracks at Sony... There's a lot more logs out there to show where they've been and what they've been doing. XD It'll be funny to watch them all fry.[/citation]
You're grasp of technology is pretty poor, there is such a thing as secure delete that zeroes the area with 100 layers, there is currently no technology in existence that goes beyond 10 layers. Proxy servers, tor networks, vpn's. Whoever had this kind of sophistication in an attack will undoubtedly be able to untraceabley hide himself.

 

[x3style]

[citation][nom]tsnorquist[/nom]It's this type of thinking that enables people to partake in criminal behavior. They realize if/when caught, there isn't going to be a harsh penalty for their actions.[/citation]
I'm pretty sure you're ok with hanging for stealing a bag of chips right? Unless its yourself i guess?
What happened to justice? Punishment in relationship with the impact of your actions?

 

[captaincharisma]

[citation][nom]dalethepcman[/nom]If sony lost 12.3 million credit card numbers then they deserve to have 12.3 million fines for not following PCI compliance, and either not storing or encrypting CC info.As for Anon doing this, they don't have the proper motive. and are most likely some of the biggest users of the PSN. This is something most likely done by an organized crime syndicate from the previous USSR or China.[/citation]

LMAO you sir have been watching too many action movies

 

[TitusFFX]

>.> I wonder if Sony has ever kept records of the people that actually work for them that actually have access to the database... For them to be this in the dark it has to be someone high enough up to slip in without anyone noticing what is going on...

 

[maestintaolius]

[citation][nom]tsnorquist[/nom]It's this type of thinking that enables people to partake in criminal behavior. They realize if/when caught, there isn't going to be a harsh penalty for their actions.[/citation]
Incorrect. People that partake in crime figure they're not going to be caught (unless it's a passion/insanity thing) so the penalty is almost meaningless. Take speeding for example, everyone knows it's illegal and knows the related insurance/civil penalties and their costs but damn near everyone does it because the odds of actually being caught are so incredibly minute. Texas's murder rate isn't any better than anywhere else even though they've practically an assembly line for executions.

 

[Guest]

What does it matter if Anonymous is responsible? You can't catch Anon, its the whole point of the group.. its not even a group, its not an individual, and no one will ever claim they know anything about Anonymous, or responsible for anything related to Anonymous. If you knew, then they wouldn't be doing their job correctly.