Teen Jailed for Refusing to Give Up His Password

[nforce4max]

Should have just used a bait drive and keep what ever he may be storing on some other drive that is no ware near the property or ware they could not find it.

 

[bunga28]

[citation][nom]prozium42[/nom]Ah yes, cheering for the pedophile's use of technology.[/citation]

How did you know that he's a pedophile? That is a blatant charge! This is a typical bush-league, crazy, stupid, mob mentality (when are you going to be a leader?). Whatever happens to innocent until proven guilty. Even the police can't prove that. This proves that you are the arm chair, lazy ass. Lord knows, and I hope to God not, you will be innocently charged with something similar and your rights are not protected. How do you feel?

I think that he deserves a jail time for braking the UK law that he should cough up his password (though, I personally think it's a stupid law that should be repealed - 2 judges in the US & Canada ruled that kind of laws are unconstitutional in the US & Canada). We & Scotland Yard don't know anything of what is he's storing in his HDD so I think we shouldn't be speculating and honor his human rights.

 

[christop]

The child thing is wack but don't you have wrights to you private info?

 

[master9716]

hEY THATS RIGHT. iF HE SAYS i FORGOT IT AND THERE IS NO WAY TO PROVE THAT HE IS LYING THEN HE SHOULD BE LET GO FREE. IM GLAD TO LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY. I THOUGHT THE UK WAA A FREE COUNTRY ALSO.

 

[thorkle]

[citation][nom]jellico[/nom]I absolutely loathe that attitude! If you've got nothing to hide then why not comply with the police who want to search your car, your computer... where does it end. How about if the police decide to just start doing door-to-door home searches. If you're not hiding anything, you should have no reason to object.Look, the guy is probably hiding something. But the burden of proof is on the police. Making it a crime to withhold passwords? Why not just waterboard the guy until he confesses. Or better yet, let's hook a car battery up to his testicles. No, I know... let's just work his ass over until he gives up the goods. Nah... that's barbaric! We can't torture people. Let's just put him in jail for 20 years or until he gives up the password and incriminates himself so we can put him in jail for 15 years.Fortunately, in the free (for now) United States, we have the 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination. I do concur with epol, in the absense of such protection, he should just claim that he forgot.[/citation]
Have you ever heard of the patriot Act? I'm an American, and we certainly aren't "free". The patriot act is used mostly for offenses not tied to terrorism. I like living here, but that's about it. America certainly has horrible policies, and that's why we "need" the largest military that has ever existed to protect us.

 

[highlife]

[citation][nom]Fthapoleece[/nom]So what happens if he says "I can't remember it"[/citation]


True, I just assumed that a 1st world modern nation would have adopted that idea. Guess not!

 

[aznguy0028]

[citation][nom]highlife[/nom]I guess they don't have a 5th amendment equivalent in the UK?[/citation]
lol, that totally reminded me of the Chapelle skit where he pleads the fizziiiith.

http/www.youtube.com/watch?v=rissm5YHJQg for anyone who wants to see it

 

[brendano257]

[citation][nom]epol[/nom]Just say you "forgot" it[/citation]

Believable with a 50 char. password. People have a hard time believing that someone can remember a 10 character password if it's random.

[citation][nom]master9716[/nom]hEY THATS RIGHT. iF HE SAYS i FORGOT IT AND THERE IS NO WAY TO PROVE THAT HE IS LYING THEN HE SHOULD BE LET GO FREE. IM GLAD TO LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY. I THOUGHT THE UK WAA A FREE COUNTRY ALSO.[/citation]

I see you're exercising your free speech by trolling. Thank you sir.

 

[decode]

The child porn isn't proven... yet?

The fact of the matter is he could actually be holding even worse, more secret information. goverment secrets... virus coding, botnet controllers etc... so yes, i'd go to jail rather than give up my password. I support this person wholly(except for the child porn)

 

[groveborn]

This is one symptom of technology overcoming law. The simple fact is that if the average law breaker would encrypt their data with an easy to remember, but long and difficult to break password, then law enforcement would never be able to do the job for which we pay them.

This would lead to a bigger problem for all of us - the internet would be fundamentally changed to allow law enforcement to see everything you do as you do it. Our privacy to do what is currently perfectly legal may be corrupted to a point where somebody would start looking at any one they don't like just to put them in jail for a few days. Most everyone commits some sort of criminal act in their daily lives.

It's illegal to throw soda cans in the garbage, it's illegal to spit on the sidewalk, it's illegal to pour oil down the drain, it's illegal to speed, it's illegal to wear suspenders (in some places), it's illegal to use a "rolling stop", it's illegal to use certain words in front of minors, it's illegal to use various natural drugs, it's illegal to pat someone on their back without their explicit permission.

I'm sure you can easily see where you could go wrong. Yay for the little guy for taking a small hit to avoid a much larger hit. Still, he *probably* likes little kids, but so long as he "sticks it to the man", it's all good. Never mind that he could maybe rape your little girl some day. On the other hand, I certainly don't want to live in a world where the police can just choose to jail me because I won't tell them my password.

 

[tntom]

What if he was just playing around with file encryption and encrypted a random directory to which he entered a random 50 digit password which he had no intentions of memorizing. But now the police found it and are convinced there is something incriminating in this random directory but they won't believe him when he says he forgot the password and there is nothing of value in there?

Or do they have log files showing suspicious file names being copied to said computer or directory.

 

[plattyaj]

Although there are some aspects of law in England & Wales that correspond to the fifth amendment, the way that the US constitution is written makes it hard to create laws like the one being used in this case.

Whether this could be appealed under European Human Rights law is another matter ... I would suspect that a lawyer wanting to make a name for themselves might take this case on ...

 

[helldog3105]

Good Grief Toms! Can't you do something about the spammers? They seem to be getting worse every day!

 

[Wombat_VC]

Speak, comrade, dontz make me make you...

 

[leon2006]

5th amendment here in the US protect the password owner. There are already 2 cases here in the US the court decided in favor of the password owner.

One cas is a suspected hacker trapped at the airport. The court upheld the right of the pc owner not to provide the password.

The second case was pc was open during inspection. Somehow the police turn off the pc. When they turn it on the password is required. PC owner is not required by law to provide the pasword.

The court in its decision has the authority to crack the password given a reasonable cause.

In both cases the harddrives are encrypted. It will take months and resources for the authorities to crack the password.

 

[spentshells]

well this is really bad

 

[atomyc]

"sophisticated" is an understatement.

 

[getritch]

Pedobear and 2 other friends like this.

 

[theshonen8899]

I so wish he was some super cool hacker with secret codes that will unleash a massive, obscure plan for global communism or something crazy like that instead of a pedo.

 

[chick0n]

I have a 64 character password. its created by 8 groups of password of 8 characters each. all of them have random characters, upper and lower case and if possible I use !@#)!@* in them too.

Its not hard to remember it, practice it one group at a time couple times a day and u will get it in couple of days.

This strong password thing (and all other security on my comp) has been a habit since I was 12. My friends know I have this "password" and said I dont need it its just a waste of time blah blah blah and they use password like PaSSwOrd and they said with "modern" computer power they can crack my password in the matter of minutes if not seconds. no point to argue with them.

I have nothing to hide, but if someone authority wants me to give my password out I still would say no. Why would I give my stuff out just because "they said so" ? Im not their puppet nor slave. I don't have to listen to them. If they have evidence, show me. otherwise, stfu.