Transferring LD to DVD: Analog or Digital

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If I am going to transfer a movie from LD to DVD, is it better to buy
an LD player which picture is pure analog or an LD player which picture
has been digitized? The movie is Japanese robot anime, if that's
relevant.

Hendra

 

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So, for tranferring an LD movie to DVD Recorder, a pure analog player
like Pioneer CLD-E2000 (similar to Pioneer CLD-S201) will have a better
transfer quality than say a pure digital player like Pioneer CLD-D704 ?
Do you think the difference will be obvious?

Thanks in advance!

Hendra

 

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u1000393@email.sjsu.edu skrev:

> Do you think the difference will be obvious?
>

Allow me to add:

Yes. A player with an undisturbed composite output, would also be my
recommendation.

The reason for it is this:

The signal on a LaserDisc is stored in composite.
When outputting a S-video signal, the composite signal has undergone a
transformation inside the player, through the internal comb-filter.

Almost all players are now more than 10 years old. Back then, even the
most sophisticated circuits, can't compete with even common equipment
of today.

Be aware, that from some players, the composite output has undergone
transformation like this: composite to S-video to composite.
This isn't good enough.

I have no long term experiences in which machine that can deliver what.
All I know...which isn't much....has been gathered from this NG and
from googling around, the last 2 years.

I do know, that the LD-V4300D delivers an undisturbed composite.
This is knowledge based from the players servicemanual, where the
signal can be followed from the laser-pickup, all the way through
circuitboards and out.

Maybe the other guys in here, have some knowledge regarding other
players.

I hope this cleared some aspects, rather that added to the confusion.

Kindest regards

Brian Hougaard Baldersbaek

 

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At that very moment, u1000393@email.sjsu.edu turned to
alt.video.laserdisc and said
> If I am going to transfer a movie from LD to DVD, is it better to buy
> an LD player which picture is pure analog or an LD player which picture
> has been digitized? The movie is Japanese robot anime, if that's
> relevant.

Analog. Modern electronics are much better at working digitally than the
LD's made then.

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opposite expert. - Arthur C. Clarke

 

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<u1000393@email.sjsu.edu> wrote in message
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> So, for tranferring an LD movie to DVD Recorder, a pure analog player
> like Pioneer CLD-E2000 (similar to Pioneer CLD-S201) will have a
> better
> transfer quality than say a pure digital player like Pioneer CLD-D704
> ?

There is no such thing as a "pure digital" laserdisc player. Laserdisc
is an analog video format.

A lot of what is being recommended in this thread is based on purely
theoretical ideas. Once you use an S201 and see how noisy the picture
is, you will need to apply Digital Noise Reduction to the image, whether
that is in the LD player or externally.

 

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What I do, is transfer the laserdisc to digital tape (either digital 8 or
D-VHS). Then once I have the tape, I transfer that to a DVD using firewire
connection. All my DVD's look as good as the source. I find that if I go
directly to DVD, I get a number of dropouts. This never happens when I go
to digital tape. None of this is with a computer. I only use a computer to
copy my DVDRW disc to a DVDR.


"Joshua Zyber" <jzyber@mind-NOSPAM-spring.com> wrote in message
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> <u1000393@email.sjsu.edu> wrote in message
> news:1124858806.337472.104700@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > So, for tranferring an LD movie to DVD Recorder, a pure analog player
> > like Pioneer CLD-E2000 (similar to Pioneer CLD-S201) will have a
> > better
> > transfer quality than say a pure digital player like Pioneer CLD-D704
> > ?
>
> There is no such thing as a "pure digital" laserdisc player. Laserdisc
> is an analog video format.
>
> A lot of what is being recommended in this thread is based on purely
> theoretical ideas. Once you use an S201 and see how noisy the picture
> is, you will need to apply Digital Noise Reduction to the image, whether
> that is in the LD player or externally.
>
>

 

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Thanks for the clarification! Which pure analog player that is equally
good with the 704?

Hendra

 

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At that very moment, u1000393@email.sjsu.edu turned to
alt.video.laserdisc and said
> So, for tranferring an LD movie to DVD Recorder, a pure analog player
> like Pioneer CLD-E2000 (similar to Pioneer CLD-S201) will have a better
> transfer quality than say a pure digital player like Pioneer CLD-D704 ?

No, its not as simple as that.
A good quality player with direct analog output is preferable to one
equally good quality, but with digital processing.

Those two players are quite different though, the 704 is quite good
quality while the e2000 is quite poor, so the basic player quality would
outweight the benefit of avoiding digital processing.

Sorry, my answer was too simplistic.

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opposite expert. - Arthur C. Clarke