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so if a pirate, who's poor as dirt, pays like $60k for each song he downloads and doesn't make money off of...
...then shouldn't some tech company, who's super rich, who illegally used/stole technology in a few hundred million of their devices, sold for profit, get fined for more than $60k for profiting off of each device that contains copied hardware. I don't understand how copyright fines are so much more crazier than patent infringement cases. in any case, both laws need massive massive reform.
it really should be where the copyright violator just pays the $5 per song for licensing, similar to the dollar amount in licensing agreements for a patent per device. not the outrageous $60k for each song downloaded...
...then shouldn't some tech company, who's super rich, who illegally used/stole technology in a few hundred million of their devices, sold for profit, get fined for more than $60k for profiting off of each device that contains copied hardware. I don't understand how copyright fines are so much more crazier than patent infringement cases. in any case, both laws need massive massive reform.
it really should be where the copyright violator just pays the $5 per song for licensing, similar to the dollar amount in licensing agreements for a patent per device. not the outrageous $60k for each song downloaded...
personally i hope they win, im sich of apples overpriced POS, android can do ANYTHING apple can do. except market as well...
i hope they succeed, so that people can stop calling it iphone and then smartphones.... THEY're BOTH F***** Smart Phones. if u dont know what im talking about either your lucky, or completely stupid
i hope they succeed, so that people can stop calling it iphone and then smartphones.... THEY're BOTH F***** Smart Phones. if u dont know what im talking about either your lucky, or completely stupid
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[citation][nom]dark_lord69[/nom]As much as I hate Apple I'd rather have an American company come out on top for this one.[/citation]
Is this the same American company that outsources everything to China?
Is this the same American company that outsources everything to China?
oh come on we all know software patents are mostly hot air, but do you lot actually read the article before going off and espousing the evils of the patent system.
The patent in this case makes perfect sense, this is not some generic idea for some act or process or look or something, this is a technical patent covering a specific "instruction set", it's not some ghost of a patent it's an actual real life instruction set just like the MMX instruction set, it's tangible and well defined
The patent in this case makes perfect sense, this is not some generic idea for some act or process or look or something, this is a technical patent covering a specific "instruction set", it's not some ghost of a patent it's an actual real life instruction set just like the MMX instruction set, it's tangible and well defined
[citation][nom]house70[/nom]..."Unfortunately, Apple may have a tough battle ahead"....Why unfortunately? You already taking sides? If Apple loses, it will have to pay up. It's as direct as that. Nothing unfortunate here.[/citation]
i saw that too and thought the same thing. already taking sides. i dont see it as being unfortunate for apple. i see it as being great for VIA. if apple is indeed infringing on their patents, then i hope via wins the case. if it turns out that apple is not in violation, then i'd have to say im again sick of all these patent cases i hear about every week. its so common i dont even know why its news anymore. instead they should just not report patent cases until there is a ruling at the end, and then still only report it if the ruling changes our lives somehow.
i saw that too and thought the same thing. already taking sides. i dont see it as being unfortunate for apple. i see it as being great for VIA. if apple is indeed infringing on their patents, then i hope via wins the case. if it turns out that apple is not in violation, then i'd have to say im again sick of all these patent cases i hear about every week. its so common i dont even know why its news anymore. instead they should just not report patent cases until there is a ruling at the end, and then still only report it if the ruling changes our lives somehow.
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[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]Just ask yourself how many people Apple employ's here in the US? Compare that to some company like Asus or Samsung.[/citation]
That's a good idea, seeing as you raised the subject can you provide a link that shows how many people Samsung employs in the USA, despite having all their manufacturing back in South Korea?
That's a good idea, seeing as you raised the subject can you provide a link that shows how many people Samsung employs in the USA, despite having all their manufacturing back in South Korea?
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[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]Just ask yourself how many people Apple employ's here in the US? Compare that to some company like Asus or Samsung.[/citation]
How many people do you reckon are employed at this lot:-
http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsamsung/ourbusinesses/businessarea/usdivisions.html#consumer
Apple employs 50,000 in total, Samsung employs 276,000
Apple outsources its slave labour to China, Samsung outsources real jobs to the USA
How many people do you reckon are employed at this lot:-
http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsamsung/ourbusinesses/businessarea/usdivisions.html#consumer
Apple employs 50,000 in total, Samsung employs 276,000
Apple outsources its slave labour to China, Samsung outsources real jobs to the USA
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Payback is a bummer!
You know that VIA is going to get monetary support from other companies to help them. You'll never actually know about it though.
I want to see Apple hanging by its stem.
You know that VIA is going to get monetary support from other companies to help them. You'll never actually know about it though.
I want to see Apple hanging by its stem.
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From this, Apple seems such an innovative company. As from what I know, A4 and A5 are just some packaging modification of the ARM CPU. Otherwise, there should be huge performance boost from other ARM CPU in other smart phones. From what I know now, this is not the case.
ARM should have covered all patents for its licensees otherwise, this would be a terrible thing for them. This looks like VIA is being controlled (paid) by other companies in suing Apple.
ARM should have covered all patents for its licensees otherwise, this would be a terrible thing for them. This looks like VIA is being controlled (paid) by other companies in suing Apple.
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[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]How many people do you reckon are employed at this lot:-http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsam [...] l#consumerApple employs 50,000 in total, Samsung employs 276,000Apple outsources its slave labour to China, Samsung outsources real jobs to the USA[/citation]
Where did you get your "facts?" According to Forbes Samsung employs 133,781 world wide, and has a profit of $13,669,000 while Apple employs 65,225 word wide and has a profit of $14,013,000.Apple employs over 35,000 in the USA, and has about 250 retail stores here. With the new headquarters going up in Cupertino, then 100's more will be employed in construction alone. I see a lot of Samsung products, but still have not seen any Samsung stores, etc. in the US. I suppose you think that Samsung has zero outsourcing of parts to China?
Actually, As of September 27, 2008, the Company had approximately 32,000 full-time equivalent employees in the US and an additional 3,100 temporary equivalent employees and contractors. Apple also has almost 300 retail stores in the US.
Where did you get your "facts?" According to Forbes Samsung employs 133,781 world wide, and has a profit of $13,669,000 while Apple employs 65,225 word wide and has a profit of $14,013,000.Apple employs over 35,000 in the USA, and has about 250 retail stores here. With the new headquarters going up in Cupertino, then 100's more will be employed in construction alone. I see a lot of Samsung products, but still have not seen any Samsung stores, etc. in the US. I suppose you think that Samsung has zero outsourcing of parts to China?
Actually, As of September 27, 2008, the Company had approximately 32,000 full-time equivalent employees in the US and an additional 3,100 temporary equivalent employees and contractors. Apple also has almost 300 retail stores in the US.
[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]Where did you get your "facts?" According to Forbes Samsung employs 133,781 world wide, and has a profit of $13,669,000 while Apple employs 65,225 word wide and has a profit of $14,013,000.Apple employs over 35,000 in the USA, and has about 250 retail stores here. With the new headquarters going up in Cupertino, then 100's more will be employed in construction alone. I see a lot of Samsung products, but still have not seen any Samsung stores, etc. in the US. I suppose you think that Samsung has zero outsourcing of parts to China?Actually, As of September 27, 2008, the Company had approximately 32,000 full-time equivalent employees in the US and an additional 3,100 temporary equivalent employees and contractors. Apple also has almost 300 retail stores in the US.[/citation]
Did you even look at the link?
Its directly from Samsung.. outlining how many people they employ and a listing of their companies worldwide and in the USA.
I imagine after looking at the number of people Samsung employs the number of jobs in the USA would be sizable.. Also the quality of the Samsung jobs would be far better than the 300 retail (highly paid but still retail) jobs you speak so highly of.. While Cupertino is a large campus the 7 facilities Samsung operates in the USA are equally grand..
Give it a rest.. Apple is so valuable because people pay sums of money they should be outraged at.. when a company makes the margins Apple makes on their products they shouldn't be celebrated they should be seen as what they are.. gouging their consumers,,,
People are outrages by big oils profit margins..
Did you even look at the link?
Its directly from Samsung.. outlining how many people they employ and a listing of their companies worldwide and in the USA.
I imagine after looking at the number of people Samsung employs the number of jobs in the USA would be sizable.. Also the quality of the Samsung jobs would be far better than the 300 retail (highly paid but still retail) jobs you speak so highly of.. While Cupertino is a large campus the 7 facilities Samsung operates in the USA are equally grand..
Give it a rest.. Apple is so valuable because people pay sums of money they should be outraged at.. when a company makes the margins Apple makes on their products they shouldn't be celebrated they should be seen as what they are.. gouging their consumers,,,
People are outrages by big oils profit margins..
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[citation][nom]kitsura[/nom]Did you even look at the link?Its directly from Samsung.. outlining how many people they employ and a listing of their companies worldwide and in the USA.I imagine after looking at the number of people Samsung employs the number of jobs in the USA would be sizable.. Also the quality of the Samsung jobs would be far better than the 300 retail (highly paid but still retail) jobs you speak so highly of.. While Cupertino is a large campus the 7 facilities Samsung operates in the USA are equally grand.. Give it a rest.. Apple is so valuable because people pay sums of money they should be outraged at.. when a company makes the margins Apple makes on their products they shouldn't be celebrated they should be seen as what they are.. gouging their consumers,,, People are outrages by big oils profit margins..[/citation]
Yea, I looked at the link but I sure as hell did not see any numbers. Just different parts of a corporation. Sure, they have some different campuses but that says nothing about the number of people employed. You seem confused. The "300 retail jobs" your refer to are retail stores, but that is just the retail side of Apple. There is also the R&D which take place in Cupertino, and the new data center they just built. You use terms like: "imagine," "equally grand," etc. These are mere words that have no basis of fact.
You are wrong on your facts regarding profits. Apple is ranked 20th, whereas Microsoft comes in at 10th place. What does that tell you about MS? Facts are here. With Nestle at #1, then people should be pissed as hell knowing that they are being ripped off buying that chocolate bar. Look at the highest R&D in the world and Apple is ranked 7th and is behind the likes of IBM, GE, Dupont, 3M and when it came to Masters of Innovation in Techonolgy...Apple was ranked higher than Samsung. Bottom line: US companies kick-ass on our global competitors, and if Apple just so happens to beat-up the folks from South Korea (Samsung,) then embrace it!
Apple makes money, invests in R&D, is innovative, and gives the consumers what they want. Knock them if you like, but the fact is that Apple is a very successful corporation that knows how to market it's products, produces quality merchandise and, more importantly, they are great at anticipating what the consumers want.
Yea, I looked at the link but I sure as hell did not see any numbers. Just different parts of a corporation. Sure, they have some different campuses but that says nothing about the number of people employed. You seem confused. The "300 retail jobs" your refer to are retail stores, but that is just the retail side of Apple. There is also the R&D which take place in Cupertino, and the new data center they just built. You use terms like: "imagine," "equally grand," etc. These are mere words that have no basis of fact.
You are wrong on your facts regarding profits. Apple is ranked 20th, whereas Microsoft comes in at 10th place. What does that tell you about MS? Facts are here. With Nestle at #1, then people should be pissed as hell knowing that they are being ripped off buying that chocolate bar. Look at the highest R&D in the world and Apple is ranked 7th and is behind the likes of IBM, GE, Dupont, 3M and when it came to Masters of Innovation in Techonolgy...Apple was ranked higher than Samsung. Bottom line: US companies kick-ass on our global competitors, and if Apple just so happens to beat-up the folks from South Korea (Samsung,) then embrace it!
Apple makes money, invests in R&D, is innovative, and gives the consumers what they want. Knock them if you like, but the fact is that Apple is a very successful corporation that knows how to market it's products, produces quality merchandise and, more importantly, they are great at anticipating what the consumers want.
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