Virus wont let me delete it/run antivirus, I felt like I tried every trick in the book.

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BentoBox

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So, a while back I made a thread talking about the same thing how this nasty virus wont let me run any sort of antivirus and people said to use a rescue disk, I tried it, and it worked! Well, at least I thought it did. Turns out it didn't, and I realized how much more it could do. So far I tried all these solutions

-antivirus (duh)
-use a rescue disk (tried 2, both didnt fully work)
-wiping hdd except for windows (wouldn't let me)
-use rkill/any other disabler (nah)
-renamed antivirus to something else
-rebooted in safe mode(straight up wouldn't let me, lol)
-windows defender(tried offline mode too)

Oh yeah, and there's a virus in my startup that wont let me disable it, cpx.exe. Right now I'm stuck on the rescue disk part and I got rid of all but 2 viruses, trojan.agent.win32.84914. Which they are both named an for some reason it wont let me delete it, when I do click it, it does nothing.
 
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mdd1963

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5 - 15 more hours of trying different malware removal software, chasing removal solutions, miscreant processes (which is entertaining, if you are the curious type), vs. 10-20 minutes of delete partition, quick format, W10 reinstall, all other software reinstalled, with performance back to the best it will ever be......
 

mdd1963

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try running ultraviruskiller as admin, and terminating/deleting process with it....; see if any reference to the mystery process in autoruns...

You can also look at running freefixer, also looking for non-greenlisted processes you don't clearly recognize....
 

JoshRoss

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While a clean reinstall of Windows is a much quicker solution, some facts need to be established. If people do not have back-ups, have important projects that need to be dealt with, no way of making backups (I know cloud is a solution as well, but still), they might want their Windows back.

I know that RKill might have issues in Windows 10 Safe mode, but in normal mode, it should work for the most part.

Do you maybe have a recovery CD/USB? You could also try a system restore point and restore your Windows before the infection.
 

mdd1963

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If Win10 was already activated, anyone can nuke and pave/reinstall/reactivate easily , just create a a Win10 install CD/USB using MS's Media Creation Tool beforehand....

If someone was using a non-activated bootleg/trial that doesn't update, then the process is...well, ....'doomed', comes to mind. Bogus processes killing performance or not, anyone can boot a Linux Mint 17.3 CD, and easily gather all critical docs, photos, etc., prior to nuking and paving....
 

JoshRoss

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But you see, you need to have knowledge of these facts, and also, you are thinking from an advanced and more refined perspective (Which I do not blame you). I am trying to provide simple and acceptable solutions to a common internet user, that wouldn't be TOO complicated, but some work is required. While I agree you can boot Linux or even bootable AV, its steps that most people just won't take.
 

mdd1963

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Not implying anything you said was wrong, only that data (pprojects, docs, priceless photos, etc.) on the drive is accessible, and can be easily transferred/recovered to a $12 USB flash drive...ergo, a WIn10 reinstall is not a true catastrophe.

You are also correct in that some for folks without experience, the reinstall, and necessary chipset and GPU driver installs can be a little intimidating.

For malware/malicious processes that pull the 'Lazarus'/respawn effect, tracking it down can be *FAR* more difficult that the reinstall... IMO ... :)
 

JoshRoss

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Not implying that your opinion is wrong either, it's just a little too complicated from a casual help point. True, Win10 won't be the worst to reinstall. On the bright side, this teaches people to be aware, keep backups and use safe internet practices.

*FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR* More difficult, you missed a couple of A's there :D But yeah, respawn/self initiating viruses are a pain to put it lightly...
 

mdd1963

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I'm the type to spend 12-24 hours chasing malware just as a personal challenge! :)

Amazing the stuff you can track down with Freefixer, autoruns, Process Explorer, etc...

Once my patience is exhausted, a Win10 reinstall takes 4-5 minutes....about as much time as it takes to do a Freefixer or Roguekiller scan on some slower systems.. (m.2 storage has it's advantages)

JRT
AdwCleaner
MBAM
Freefixer
Autoruns
Process Explorer
TDSSKiller
RKill/Roguekiller
Hitman Pro
Kaspersky Rescue CD

At some point, anyone will eventually resort to a good 'ole nuke and pave' :)
 

JoshRoss

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I think we should either discuss this further in private or make a new topic regarding what software do you use for hunting/recovering from malware, would be an interesting discussion to hear, because we are jumping off topic
 

mdd1963

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Perhaps the OP will read the above list, and research the ones he's not tried/investigated.

to the OP...For malware that respawns, I can't imagine defeating it without some some experience in process explorer; process explorer's lower pane info will allow suspending a process, then suspend the process that respawns the original, then delete them both... but, it takes some investigative creative clicking, to be sure....

You can find a 90 minute tutorial on ProcessExplorer's capabilities on Youtube at a hosted MS conference/event, narrated by Mark Russinovich, an MS genius programmer of SysInternals' fame...

Good luck with this malware!
 
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