which laptop should i get for doing both gaming and using 3d animation programs?

eamon butler

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hey guys, I have been looking for a good gaming and 3d software laptop ( 3d software like maya and anime studio and games like bioshock infinite and if possible crisis 3) and have come up with these laptops

Sager NP7355 (Clevo W350ST)
- SAGER Holiday Savings!!! - $50 OFF When you spend $1250.00* or more per system! (*excludes non-sager parts, accessories, shipping, & taxes)
- FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- FREE! - Batman: Origins for PC (Limited Time Offer / While Supplies Last / Must be requested in comments box during checkout)
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Sager Screen (SKU - SSC005)
- Standard No Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4700MQ (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU201)
- - Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 765M (2.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 w/ Optimus™ Technology
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 12GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (3 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S433P)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- 120GB Crucial M5 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
- FREE UPGRADE! - 1TB 5400RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD098)
- None Standard
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- 8X Super Multi DVDRW/CDRW Combo Drive (Sager) (Dual Layer w/ Software) (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - ODD099)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI99)
- No Network Accessory
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers (Windows 7 & 8) + Utility Software Only
- None
- 2013 PC Security Essentials Software (Not Installed) (Trend Micro Titanium Antivirus + Security (2 Year Subscription) & Zemana AntiLogger)
- No Back Up Software
- No Unlimited GB Cloud Backup
- - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
- No Software Bundle
- No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - WTY099)
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- Standard Production Time
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No XOTIC PC Gear

and this one

Sager NP7330 (Clevo W230ST)
- NO DISCOUNT - my order is not over $1250.00 (excludes taxes, shipping, & any non-Sager upgrades)
- FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- FREE! - Batman: Origins for PC (Limited Time Offer / While Supplies Last / Must be requested in comments box during checkout)
- 13.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) w/ (AAS) Azimuthal Anchoring Switching (SKU - SSC007)
- Standard No Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4700MQ (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU201)
- - Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 765M (2.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 w/ Optimus™ Technology
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S423P)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- Non-RAID Storage
- 120GB Crucial M5 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
- NO mSATA Solid State Drive
- FREE UPGRADE! - 1TB 5400RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD098)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI98)
- No Network Accessory
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (6-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- No Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers (Windows 7 & 8) + Utility Software Only
- None
- 2013 PC Security Essentials Software (Not Installed) (Trend Micro Titanium Antivirus + Security (2 Year Subscription) & Zemana AntiLogger)
- No Back Up Software
- No Unlimited GB Cloud Backup
- - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
- No Software Bundle
- No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - WTY099)
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- Standard Production Time
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No XOTIC PC Gear

I like these white box build ones because they can be changed and are cheaper (even though the ones I'm looking at are from America and postage is so expensive) but if you have any normal laptops that are better and cheaper that would be good too.

1. What is your budget?
$1500 but I would like to stay under $1300

2. What is the size of the notebook that you are considering?
preferably 13" or 15" but if there are good priced larger ones than they will be fine (I want to be able to carry it around in a backpack)

3. What screen resolution do you want?
Highest? (whatever that's suitable within my price range)

4. Do you need a portable or desktop replacement laptop?
desktop replacement, but I will be bringing it to school

5. How much battery life do you need?
as long as possible

6. Do you want to play games with your laptop? If so then please list the games that you want to with the settings that you want for these games. (Low,Medium or High)?
bioshock infinite on medium or high and maybe even crisis 3 on medium(or high but that probably wont be in my price range)

7. What other tasks do you want to do with your laptop? (Photo/Video editing, Etc.)
3d modeling/animation/game design softwares, Web Surfing

8. How much storage (Hard Drive capacity) do you need?
750 and a ssd so it can run faster preferably

10. How long do you want to keep your laptop?
4 years. as long as it could last

11. What kind of Optical drive do you need? DVD ROM/Writer,Bluray ROM/Writer,Etc ?
dvd rom

12. Please tell us about the brands that you prefer to buy from them and the brands that you don't like and explain the reasons.
I like white boxes( barebones) like the clevo laptops because they are easier to work with but other brand like hp are fine

13. What country do you live in?
Australia

thankyou in advance
 

LummusMaximus

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I would recommend this laptop:
http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-ge60-2oe073us-p-6220.html?wconfigure=yes
With several upgrades, you can stay under budget while getting good performance and good battery life at a good weight.

Here's what i recommend:
60GB Solid State mSATA III ( + 79 )
Copper cooling upgrade ( + 59 )
Thermal paste upgrade ( + 35 )

With these upgrades, it comes to roughly $1375, meaning that there's still room in your $1500 budget for peripherals.
 

eamon butler

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@LummusMaximus I have never owned an msi laptop before so are they trustworthy, well built and what can you change inside them(can you change as much as a clevo laptop)?
 

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Change as much as a clevo? Nope. The graphics can't be modified. I'm not sure if the clevo can do that, but i think it can. If the clevo's graphics can't be changed, then i recommend going for the MSI. Clevos have a tendency to be quite plasticy.
 

eamon butler

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by plasticy do you mean it looks/feels really plasticy or that they are weak and break easily? and im pretty sure the graphics and the processor can be changed
 

LummusMaximus

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By plastic-y i just mean the look and the feel. They're well built and fairly solid machines, but to do that using plastic the plastic ends up quite thick so it'll be heavy. To be fair, I don't know much about the MSI's build quality, although OEMs tend to be lighter and better looking than Clevos.

This specific model, though, i know a bit about. It's well built, and that i'm very sure of.
 
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