Why Nokia's Patents Won't Save The Company

[Guest]

Being innovative is better than sitting on old patents.

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[cryogenic]

That's how the system goes, if you want to sell something you'll have to pay royalities to one of the big guys!

There are so many pattents right now that, no startup can ever hope to produce anything without infringing on at least some pattents out of houndreds of thousands out there.

I hope to see the pattent system go down in flames one day!

 

[NightLight]

We all know nokia isn't doing good right now, but it's not dead. As long as nokia has a good case against apple why not go for it! Patent trolling or not, Apple wouldn't hesitate to do so if the roles were reversed. Nokia had flaws, but at least it can adjust daylight savings time and it can actually make a call without dropping reception.

 

[COLGeek]

This is becoming more and more common as companies try to improve their bottom line through litigation rather than through innovation. Nokia would be better off investing its time and money in R&D and creating exciting products.

Regardless, we will see more of these sorts of actions in time.

 

[LuckyDucky7]

Android + Nokia = Actual relevant products that consumers in the States will buy.

Otherwise, nobody cares.
Windows 7 Phone isn't good enough.
Android is.

But since you decided that Android won't appear on a Nokia device, you're going down.

Hey, maybe once you go bankrupt your patent trolling will stop!

 

[scook9]

The way I see it, if 2 companies independently research and design similar solutions, fuck whoever has the "patent" on it. Just because you got there first does not negate the work done by the other party.

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]LuckyDucky7[/nom]Android + Nokia = Actual relevant products that consumers in the States will buy.Otherwise, nobody cares.Windows 7 Phone isn't good enough.Android is.But since you decided that Android won't appear on a Nokia device, you're going down.Hey, maybe once you go bankrupt your patent trolling will stop![/citation]

What makes you say WP7 is worse than Android? Sure, its hardware is a little lacking, but the software is very good - different, but very good nonetheless.

WP7 is less fragmented, tends to have fewer but better apps and has a very fresh and inspired UI. Okay, it isn't the fastest OS for rendering websites and its outdated Snapdragon doesn't help either, but both can and will be fixed over time.

And the lackluster phones? Nokia's here to help with that. American customers never realised it, but Nokia handsets are amongst the best built and designed on the market. And now, they have software that's worth getting (not saying that Symbian is bad, in fact it was way ahead of its time. Too bad it lagged in marketing and pace of development).

 

[juuh]

"But despite its research and manufacturing power, Nokia never produced a single competitive device"

I got one right here, Nokia N900, quite superior in every way to any iphone espeacially the newest one which you can't talk to without adding some rubber shielding around it.

 

[mykem]

WP7 is a very nice platform. Having launched just 5 months ago, there are more than 10,000 apps, the user interface is extremely slick and streamlined, and the live tiles are a real innovation. I have an HTC HD7, and love it. It has a few flaws that I'm willing to live with, but its social network integration is wonderful and the OS is easy and intuitive to use. When the promised updates are rolled out, I think the fit and polish will ensure it as a great contender. Microsoft was wise to leverage their developer base and I think this will be the key to pressing WP7 forward. Having Nokia in their back pocket is also a very savvy move. Android is too slow and fragmented, which will eventually slow the pace of their current rate of innovation... it's a hard platform to develop for and the marketplace is a mess. I was pleasantly surprised when I replaced my Droid phone. The apps in particular are of a much higher caliber and the usability/experience is top notch.

 

[dogman_1234]

I don't get the patenting system. I understand that it is made to give respect to the original creator, but when someone comes up with a better AND cheaper variation, they will get the customers.

 

[chick0n]

Not working? Why not ?

look at Rambus ! They are totally garbage but they still survive !

 

[scrumworks]

Who has time to read that rant of yours? I get it, you hate Nokia. It's not American company and Apple is. I connected the dots. Dam I'm good.

 

[Guest]

"This is becoming more and more common as companies try to improve their bottom line through litigation rather than through innovation. Nokia would be better off investing its time and money in R&D and creating exciting products." - COLGeek

They did, and still do. You can thank them for the thriving mobile industry, and Steve's iPhone inspiration (a Sony that ran Symbian). But if your competitor rips off your patents, makes a fat wad, then splits it with the rest of their thieving investors instead of spreading the wealth, what are you supposed to do then, do some more research for them?

Just look at the employee numbers.
Apple: 49,400
Nokia: 132,400

Nokia does nearly as much research as Microsoft or GE... they're not just a bunch of thieving aesthetic repackaging beatniks. But yes go and defend your pretty pretty rotten to the core and tell Nokia to do some more research.

 

[kartu]

This article is soo full of BS, it's unbeliavable.
Google does NOT sell all android phones, you mactard.
61 billion $ invested into R&D is insane amount.
Nokia has a number of higly competitive devices, N900 in high end, C6 in low end (that sells for about 200 Euroes).

The fact that something doesn't sell in US doesn't make it bad. Sony Readers is another example.

 

[COLGeek]

[citation][nom]YourAverageGeek[/nom]"This is becoming more and more common as companies try to improve their bottom line through litigation rather than through innovation. Nokia would be better off investing its time and money in R&D and creating exciting products." - COLGeek They did, and still do. You can thank them for the thriving mobile industry, and Steve's iPhone inspiration (a Sony that ran Symbian). But if your competitor rips off your patents, makes a fat wad, then splits it with the rest of their thieving investors instead of spreading the wealth, what are you supposed to do then, do some more research for them? Just look at the employee numbers.Apple: 49,400Nokia: 132,400Nokia does nearly as much research as Microsoft or GE... they're not just a bunch of thieving aesthetic repackaging beatniks. But yes go and defend your pretty pretty rotten to the core and tell Nokia to do some more research.[/citation]
My point was not to defend Apple or to dissuade Nokia from pursing legal recourse, rather given how these sorts of things drag on forever and cost so much, the time and money could be put to better, more productive, uses.

I actually like Nokia products and have even worked with them indirectly via the Finnish MoD several years ago. These guys are very good at what they do.

Tech/patent litigation just leaves a lot to be desired in its actual usefulness and pay-off and can be VERY difficult (read expensive) to prove wrong doing or harm.

 

[nekromobo]

how about the point that _everyone_ else is paying up for those Nokia patents??

 

[nekromobo]

how about the point that _everyone_ else is paying up for those Nokia patents??

 

[jimsocks]

Works for kodak

 

[wawa sxm]

[citation][nom]scrumworks[/nom]Who has time to read that rant of yours? I get it, you hate Nokia. It's not American company and Apple is. I connected the dots. Dam I'm good.[/citation]

thats the same feeling i got from the article....nokia doesnt have a habit of suing, they are much worse companies like apple, rambus etc.....so why all this focus on nokia? maybe its the same reason why apple is featured in so many of toms reviews (lately you've been making an effort by having some android artilces as well)

 

[nukemaster]

"Like everyone else, Creative is following markets that are being created Apple"

Anyone else see this as missing a word?

You do know Creative beat apple to the mp3 player market right?