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"Randy S." <rswittNO@SPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Not really... Someone wants to record their favorite show. They know
it is
> > on Every monday night on CBS from 7-8. Set it up. How is that any
harder
> > than with a program guide? Many people just want to use the pause live
tv
> > option or record what they are currently watching. Why make people pay
> > monthly for that?
>
> Actually most people want to record a specific *show*, not a particular
> channel at a particular time. For most shows those two things will
> coincide *most* of the time. But some shows (like, say, Scrubs) move
> all over the place all the time, and a lot of shows get preempted or
> moved *some* of the time. With Tivo's full service, you can forget
> about it because Tivo takes care of it for you. That peace of mind and
> saving of time is part of what you are paying for.
>
Right. Just saying it would be nice if that was the option of the end user.
You think it is worth the piece of mind - others don't. They just want a
simple vcr like device, but it is not worth the $$ every month.
> > I personally have turned off the autorecord suggestions
> > option. Again, I've got nothing against a fee for the program guide.
> > However, I will soon have 3 Directivo units - If I had to pay $39 month
for
> > program data, I'd be using something else.
>
> Again you are reducing the benefit to a program guide. Most of us see
> it as much more than that. If it's not worth it to you buy a different
> brand of DVR. Besides that 3 Tivo units wouldn't cost you $39 per
> month, they'd cost you $27 per month ($13 + $7 + $7). But there's no
> question that the Directivo units are a deal at $5 each per month (or
> better yet free if you're paying enough for your package). I'd have
> probably gone with Directv if they didn't have the stupid landline
> requirement to sign up.
>
> Randy S.
Actually, DTivo is $5 for ALL your units. You pay an additional $5 per
unit, but that has nothing to do with the Tivo service, it is the same if it
is a DTivo or just a plain Directv receiver. I am paying enough for the
service to be free for me. But, yes, it would not be worth it to me and I
would use something else otherwise. That's the point. More reasonable
options would probably mean more subscribers.
The reason that I'm reducing this to program data is that is the only thing
I see (other than O/S updates) as a real subscription service - something
actually being provided monthly for the fee. The other features that people
are pointing out should not be something you pay for every month - it is
part of the software. Pay once for the software, monthly for updates and
program guide. I use a lot of software and I sure don't pay monthly for all
the nice features. On some, I have annual support/maintenance contracts.
But, those are ones that I choose to do so for the program updates and
support. I mean seriously, use this as an analogy with just about any other
product... You buy a fridge, first you shell out $1000 for it. Then,
imagine if you have to pay $50/month if you want to have it actually cool
your food. Yes, you should have to pay for the electricity to use it, but
not any more to the people who made the fridge in the first place.
BTW - you can get around the landline requirement with Directv. Use a
regular landline to register and get your first round of software updates,
then use a sleeper.iso with the monty hack. It simulates a call every day
and will never time out. Not that I've done this <grin>, but it is what
I've heard. It also gives you the usb/network options as well.
Jim
/www.tacp.toshiba.com/dvr/product.asp?model=sd-h400
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