Solved! Wireless headset that doesn't sound terrible ?

spacejunk

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Looking for a set that has good bass and isn't plagued by technical issues and fatal design flaws.

These are the ones I have tried so far:

Logitech G933 - Audio drops - flimsy usb connection - died after 3 weeks.
Astro A-50 - Good bass - Well blended audio frequencies - horrible design and build quality - fatal design flaws - No EQ software -Cushion plate snapped off after 2 months.
Siberia 650 - Reasonable comfort - terribly weak bass - Offensive mids and treble - Very bad sound profile for gaming.

The only others I can see that might be in contention are:

Razer Man O War
Corsair Void Wireless
Asus Strix ROG Wireless
Turtle beach 800x


Can anyone make a comparison between any of those compared to the one's I have already owned ? Primarily looking for deep full-bodied bass response. Have never tried Bluetooth sets but apparently my mobo has BT 4.0 support so I guess I shouldn't rule that out of the equation.
 

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I can't really help you with a wireless mic, but Sennheiser RS 195 is supposed to be among the best, if the not THE best, wireless headphones that are currently produced.

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/audiophile-headphones-wireless-digital-over-ear-rs-195
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS-195-Wireless-Headphone/dp/B00SJ4INFI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=sennheiser+195&N=-1&isNodeId=1

"...there's no current wireless headphone in production that I've heard that can compete with the RS 185"
http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-wireless-headphones
 

Palewing

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I can't really help you with a wireless mic, but Sennheiser RS 195 is supposed to be among the best, if the not THE best, wireless headphones that are currently produced.

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/audiophile-headphones-wireless-digital-over-ear-rs-195
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS-195-Wireless-Headphone/dp/B00SJ4INFI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=sennheiser+195&N=-1&isNodeId=1

"...there's no current wireless headphone in production that I've heard that can compete with the RS 185"
http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-wireless-headphones
 

spacejunk

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Hey,

Thanks for the suggestions and links. Have you had any experience with either of these sets ? And have you had any experience with any of the premium gaming sets listed above ? If so, how would you compare them ?

You got me immediately interested in the RS 195. Though after some digging it would appear there are several major flaws with this model. Such as Audio drops due to conflict with WIFI, Audio lag, poor comfort/ear sweat, so I'm a little hesitant at this point. But from what I can tell, it's universally praised for strong bass and good clarity.

I'm going to do some research on the RS 185. Cheers!

 

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I don't have any personal experience with the RS 185 or 195, but I have used many wired Sennheiser headphones, as well as read quite a bit about the models on Head-fi.

Sure, nothing compares to hands-on experience, but before I bought my headfi-setup, I spent a larger part of my sparetime for a small year doing research on various headphones. Now, even reading can give me quite a good idea, if nothing else, of a headphones' qualities.

The first set of headphones I bought were a gaming headset. I thought they were good until I tried "real" headphones. I then gave them away, and never looked back. Most headsets are overpriced. A headset that costs 300 dollars can have the same sound quality as the right "regular" headphone for 100 dollars. So I always use separate mics and headphones. And if any single part dies, only that part needs replacing.

As for the technical hurdles, that's always something to keep in mind in regards to anything sensitive to interference such as wireless transfers. If you perspire easily, that is of course something you must consider, too. I prefer velour earcuffs if possible, myself.

If I were to buy any wireless headphones myself, I would start with trying out the 185 and 195. That's pretty much all I can say.
 

spacejunk

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In my experience it has become increasingly difficult to gauge how good a piece of kit is when relying on professional reviews or critique reviews given the high level of corruption and bias involved. In light of that, I will only take the word of consumer opinions, and even that has it's fair share of corruption due to fanboyism and subjectivity.

I too would say that today's gaming headsets are mostly garbage compared to home theater sets, though that opinion stems mostly from my dissatisfaction with build quality and design. I've tested all the latest Bose, Sony, Beats at local booth's and to be frank I wasn't blown away, with the exception of noise cancellation features.

While supremely crisp and clean, they didn't have that deep full-bodied bass I am looking for. Those sound profiles seem better suited to Pop music and vocals. Ironically the Astro A50's delivered a much better bass tone and a more well-rounded sound stage at the cost of overall clarity, even so they were much more versatile than any non-gaming sets.

With that said, it's of my opinion that gaming headsets do have a place in the market, but the majority, if not all them are horribly designed, with many idiotic "soon-to-break" or "barely attached" design choices. There is such emphasis and reliance on marketing and hype in the industry that it greatly diminishes the potential of the products themselves. Instead of solid design choices and quality components half the budget goes into fancy packaging and marketing fluff, which makes the whole purchasing process a nightmare.

I'm really unhappy with these 650's, they sound horrendous to me. I just have to be careful not to get caught up in products that are all hype and nothing more. Thanks for the feedback and sorry for the rant.
 

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True. This is part of what I meant about my reading-experience in the world of headphones. Filtering all the information so that the relevant and non-super-biased remains, is not always easy. And I weight around, say, 70%-80% of my information from regular consumers. The key is getting the relevant non-FotM information.

Anyhow, my journey in the world of headphones has been pretty quiet the last few years since I settled on my setup(hover my avatar to see). Combined with decent equing, https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/, I get both extreme detail, huge but still focused soundstage, and powerful yet controlled bass.

Only upkeep is cables breaking and the changing of new earmuffs. Which, fair enough, is actually around 70 dollars a year on average, in itself.
 

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I've had those HD800's in my scope ever since I spotted them on Youtube. It would be hard to deny how good they are given the massively positive reception it has received from all types of users, but unfortunately for me they are not closed-back, which has halted me from buying them. I would love to indulge in the open-back listening experience, but my main objective is sound isolation as I have people in nearby rooms to offend.

As this will be used entirely as a PC gaming driver, I am not interested in corded options. I'm sick to death of my cords getting tangled and repeatedly run over by my computer chair and that annoying feeling where the cord rubs against your bare skin. So you could say I fit into that "beggars can't be choosers" category.

Although I can see some obvious design flaws in the RS 195, I think you're probably correct in mentioning them as some of the better options for my needs. Will have to try and get a demo on one and mull it over. Thanks again man.

 

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Beggars can't be choosers, indeed. Hopefully they will work without major issues, and if they don't, there will probably be better options down the road. But if you want wireless headphones now, and not in a few years, there aren't many options that seem as relevant as these. Cheers.
 
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