World’s First Pirate ISP Launching Soon

[Killua]

@johnh2005

Intellectual property rights have gone way out of proportion. While I do support copyright protection and artists deserve to be paid for the work they put in, the duration of the copyright protection is just way too long. There should be a reasonable time frame between an artists invention and when it becomes "open sourced" or free from copyright protection. Think of perscription drugs...new drugs have a certain number of years before generic versions of that drug becomes available.

Copyright Act of 1976 in USA has duration of copyright to be life of corporate owner + 75 years. After Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 in USA, it became +120 years. How can anyone explain the logic of this? Using your example of an AUTOCAD house, I can't use your house design until 120 years AFTER YOU DIE.

This whole pirate issue is about the duration of copyright protection and one of the pirate party aim/goal is to significantly reduce that copyright protection.

P.S. Wiki Copyright Term Extension Act and you find that Disney was the main supporter of this bill. They originally wanted to keep Mickey Mouse under the ownership of Disney FOREVER but only succeeded in extending it to +120 years. They plan to keep extending it in future, effectively making it last forever.

 

[N19h7M4r3]

As Nukem would say: Balls Of Steel! lol

 

[chickenhoagie]

[citation][nom]johnh2005[/nom]I bet they would not feel the same way if some one was breaking into their house and stealing from them, hacking into their computers taking their credit card numbers or taking something that belonged to them and using it for themselves. But of course I will get voted down and the pirates will come up with some sort of lame defense like, "If I like it I go out and buy it!" or "They should not make it hard for average Joe to steal it so I work hard to find someone good enough to pirate it and make it available for free download for me" or, "I would buy it but it is too expensive. They should lower their prices" Whatever, use any excuse you want. Piracy is theft. Advocating it makes you a thief.[/citation]
you're an idiot. do you even know what an ISP does? it offers connections to hosts and websites all over the world. they aren't stealing anybodys resources, just offering their own. its a company working for free as a statement to other ISPs' bullcrap that they offer.

 

[dalethepcman]

Because of the cost or storage many ISP keep limited if any logs, and unless they are in bed with the content producers (comcast / time warner) they have no incentive to track their users activities. When faced with massive legal action from the RIAA or MPAA most smaller ISP's just stop keeping logs altogether. If the ISP's don't track its users there is nothing to subpoena from them. This protects the customer base, and saves on the legal $'s

 

[gmarsack]

LOL This is hilarious!

 

[COLGeek]

Arrrrgggggg, abast ye swabs! Piracy is bad. Privacy is good. 'Nuf said. Now go do the right thing.

 

[fritter87]

[citation][nom]johnh2005[/nom]Did you seriously just compare advocating piracy and woman's rights by saying advocating woman's rights makes you a woman?[/citation]
[citation][nom]johnh2005[/nom]Piracy is theft. Advocating it makes you a thief.[/citation]

haha just using your flawed logic there guy

 

[shaun_shaun]

this is awesome !!! congrats to Pirate Party !!

 

[maxh2]

[citation][nom]johnh2005[/nom]... Piracy is theft. Advocating it makes you a thief.[/citation]

NO, piracy is NOT theft, it's piracy. Theft has a very different impact on the victim. It'd be more accurate to refer to piracy as copyright infringement. If it were theft, they would've just called it theft instead of making a new term for it. Why don't you work on comprehending that.

 

[zaznet]

@johnh2005

I agree that the advocating piracy use for the privacy-enforced ISP is a step across a line that invites problems.

Were they to advertise the Pedophile ISP it would get into serious legal trouble. It will likely invite those users as well who are also seeking to remain anonymous online. Anyone wanting to control a DDoS botnet, release a new computer virus or coordinate world-wide terrorist attacks would also be a prospective customer.

 

[weegee64]

The difference between the "Pedophile ISP" and "Pirate ISP" is that the pirates hurt millionaires and rich executives, while pedophiles hurt innocent little kids. Kind of a big difference, huh?

 

[kinggraves]

It's just a shame that no one in the US has had the balls to do this yet. They're manipulating loopholes in the law, which is why they're safe, but they're still making a lot of public moves and putting themselves out on a limb. If you like freedom, then you need to take it.
Like most, I'm not "for" copyrights being violated, I'm against the system in which media is being distributed. These industries have far more control than should be allowed, and in this modern age, they aren't even necessary. Take the music industry. Any tech friendly artist can record their own music, put it up on a website, make a few videos, toss them up on youtube. They can hire their own manager, have them set up venues, tour on their own. The RIAA realizes it's obsolete, so they've tried to make themselves the white knights, here to protect artists. Making music isn't about making money, there are people who will still play good music even if they aren't making a dime. Music's been around for centuries, it can live on without the RIAA. Matter of fact, it'll likely improve once people with a passion to play are making it instead of people with a passion to make a million and buy diamond studded rims.

 

[wawa sxm]

i think the riaa and mpaa brought this on to themselves....they can continue their loosing battle or instead concentrate on offering a product that make consummer feel its worth their hard earn cash...i'll be honest if i want only one song on an album i'll download it (especially if paying 20 bucks doesnt give me more then a cd with some covert art) and for tv i pay dish network but i rather download the tv shows, commercials are ridiculous in the states and even tough french tv has little to no commercials breaks i rather watch tv in english

 

[CPfreak]

@ john2005: stop suppressing people, they have the right to think whatever they like to think and tell other people about it, even if it theoretically makes them thieves.

As for me: I like the privacy thing, but as has been said; if you made something and worked on it, you should be paid, so i say the state pays the artists, not billions or something, just enough to let them live, and if they're downloaded many times and become stars, they'll be paid more.

 

[will_chellam]

[citation][nom]Lewis57[/nom]For the brits, we've got BE, they enforce no download limit not even fair use policy and will fight any RIAA/MPAA claims it's users get.[/citation]

Not true, I got a cease and desist email from Be regarding an illegal download of "There Will Be Blood" I sent them a copy of my receipt for the DVD purchased weeks before the offence and insisted it must have been someone using my wifi. And it dissapeared.

Don't get me wrong, I think Be are fantastic, great speeds, genuinely unlimited and no apparent traffic shaping, fixed IP free email / webspace, but Its not true to say they turn a blind eye to piracy.

 

[xerroz]

The fact that you people think this is a good move disgusts me. Think about, they're not saving any logs, any info whatsoever about a users web surfing so this ISP is essentially giving people a free pass to distributing child pornography without getting in trouble with the law, not only that but terrorist organizations can also benefit from this by distributing whatever information they want.

 

[js1882]

[citation][nom]maxh2[/nom]NO, piracy is NOT theft, it's piracy. Theft has a very different impact on the victim. It'd be more accurate to refer to piracy as copyright infringement. If it were theft, they would've just called it theft instead of making a new term for it. Why don't you work on comprehending that.[/citation]

EXACTLY! This whole idea of piracy=theft is just propaganda RIAA/MPAA are trying to brainwash people with (and it is working). piracy is copyright infringement and is considered a civil matter.

 

[zaznet]

[citation][nom]Weegee64[/nom]The difference between the "Pedophile ISP" and "Pirate ISP" is that the pirates hurt millionaires and rich executives, while pedophiles hurt innocent little kids. Kind of a big difference, huh?[/citation]

The difference here is they are pro piracy, advocating copyright infringement and not pro-privacy advocating civil rights. If this were given the pro-privacy spin I'd be all in favor of it. I just see it quickly running afoul of the legal system trying to promote itself as a safe haven for illegal activity.

 

[Dirtman73]

[citation][nom]xerroz[/nom]The fact that you people think this is a good move disgusts me. Think about, they're not saving any logs, any info whatsoever about a users web surfing so this ISP is essentially giving people a free pass to distributing child pornography without getting in trouble with the law, not only that but terrorist organizations can also benefit from this by distributing whatever information they want.[/citation]

That's the price we pay for a free society. Although you assume that this will make it easier for perverts and terrorists to do their jobs; they don't seem to have any problems with the way things are right now, do they?

 

[HavoCnMe]

Like a three sided circle, Awesome!