24 Wireless Carriers Band Together to Fight Apple

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LOL,

"24 wireless carriers from around the globe announced that they would be joining forces to launch a huge app store."

Yeah I bet 24 wireless carriers from around the globe are going to be able to put aside differences of language, culture, opinion, and ethics to do anything worthwhile...lol
 
This is a great idea! It is a big step to having fully open operating systems with applications in the mobile market. And will create alot of competition and jobs!
 
Meh...
Right now, I'm more interested in reheating my dinner because it wasn't fully cooked.
As long as the basics (VOiP, browser, GPS etc.) are free, then on any linux based or windows mobile, I'll have no need for this as free apps would certainly do.
 
The only mobile device that had enough apps developed for it that could compete with the Iphone was the old venerable Palm OS. If companies wan to compete with apple they need to start with something that works.

There is no way to compete by bundling a bunch of disparate technologies under one umbrella. That only leads to confusion and caos.

 
[citation][nom]apmyhr[/nom]This sounds like a good idea in theory, but like others have pointed out, how the hell are developers going to create apps that work on such a large array of hardware. The only way this can work is if all the players involved agree to a unified programming environment, such as .NET or Java, and enforce certain requirements, such as capacitive touch interface, minimum CPU and RAM specs for phones, and minimum resolution for screens. I'm not sure these companies can really work together to agree on any of this.[/citation]

Java is the answer not .NET. Java already runs on many systesm AIX,LINUX, Windows, OSX. All you do is check the system type and resources. Many APIs such as swing, and SWT are examples of APIs that accomplish this. Many of the smart phones are java based where as the iPhone uses an exclusive language to OS X which is Object-C. This can be complied on a linux machine but it wouldn't work on with OSX just as a C++ program may compile on AIX but not on Linux. Hence, the need for Java and its byte code.

I think it can be done and its a great idea. Most of the iPhone apps are absolute junk.
 
android has plenty of apps to compete with the apple app store... cause it doesnt have the 80 copies of the same app that the apple store has
 
This should be good for other wireless carriers. In the end it is going to be about who makes the best product and how people feel about it. Apple users make Apple go. Apple works hard for their user base and provide excellent customer support. Apple has nothing to fear. Bill Gates did say the future of computer isn't the PC it is the internet. Unless this new group can create an universal OS for all of the smartphone, I find it difficult to believe it will work. The future appears to Apple and Google...for now.
To compete with the Apple store, they would have to change their business model to replicate Apple. Thus they create both software and hardware (and package them together).
 
[citation][nom]koga73[/nom]This is a great idea! It is a big step to having fully open operating systems with applications in the mobile market. And will create alot of competition and jobs![/citation]

The majority of the jobs will be overseas. People are quick to dog Apple, and criticize them for everything that they do. One thing that people overlook is that Apple is a big player in the American economy. They employ a lot of American teens in their stores, not to mention a large adult force in the Silicon Valley. They also pump millions into local economies since they require online hardware/software purchases to pay any local/state sales tax.
 
[citation][nom]Smochina[/nom]I am so fed up with idiots praising java. Java is a piece of junk, idiots use because they can't grasp the whole memory management thing. Most Iphone App are junk? Maybe, but compared to those brilliant games on Iphone, ALL java games are trash. It's 2010 and we still use virtual machines? Pffff, get lost. Native code is the only way to go. And about objective-c, you can ignore objective-c totally on iphone and write in c++, but you still need a brain to do that. Java freak, "programmer".Slowly, Windows mobile will win ground and push all java crap aside.[/citation]

Obviously that was pointed at me and I can tell you I am not an "idiot" and I don't really like java I prefer C/C++ but only Nokia, as far as I know, uses C/C++. Most of the world is going to java so if you don't know java then you may have a hard time finding a job. I'd rather deal with memory in C/C++ because you still need to deal with memory in java too. It's just not fun and most people don't realize that java doesn't always free stuff up until you break all references to objects and they don't look.

Java is a good language look at all the app that companies make using java. I didn't know you could do C++ on the iPhone. From all the docs it says Objective-C so I don't trust you really know what you are talking about but I'll look into that. Still I don't want to buy a mac to write an app for the iphone.

None the less you need to chill. "you still need a brain to do that. Java freak, "programmer"" I could do circles around you!
 
[citation][nom]bad_code[/nom]Obviously that was pointed at me and I can tell you I am not an "idiot" and I don't really like java I prefer C/C++ but only Nokia, as far as I know, uses C/C++. Most of the world is going to java so if you don't know java then you may have a hard time finding a job. I'd rather deal with memory in C/C++ because you still need to deal with memory in java too. It's just not fun and most people don't realize that java doesn't always free stuff up until you break all references to objects and they don't look.Java is a good language look at all the app that companies make using java. I didn't know you could do C++ on the iPhone. From all the docs it says Objective-C so I don't trust you really know what you are talking about but I'll look into that. Still I don't want to buy a mac to write an app for the iphone.None the less you need to chill. "you still need a brain to do that. Java freak, "programmer"" I could do circles around you![/citation]

gcc compiles it it can be done
 
it's really funny to me that it takes this many companies to go against apple, lol. apple is really not that big of a company compared to Nokia or Motorola, lol. all these companies just want in on this so called smart phone market, lol
 
[citation][nom]Smochina[/nom]I am so fed up with idiots praising java. Java is a piece of junk, idiots use because they can't grasp the whole memory management thing. Most Iphone App are junk? Maybe, but compared to those brilliant games on Iphone, ALL java games are trash. It's 2010 and we still use virtual machines? Pffff, get lost. Native code is the only way to go. And about objective-c, you can ignore objective-c totally on iphone and write in c++, but you still need a brain to do that. Java freak, "programmer".Slowly, Windows mobile will win ground and push all java crap aside.[/citation]


i also agree with you.. java is the answer, java was designed to be able to run in multiples totally different environment without any change to the code... IT inst that difficult
 
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