60 Minutes: The Mexican Mafia & BitTorrent?

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lvlouro

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one more thing, i was always told that journalists should be impartial...
But here, as is becoming generalized, Lesley Stahl reacts to the story expressing (literally with the facial expression) her opinion.

TH editors are always criticized about giving opinion on news... Seems like CBS's 60 min, a supposedly good news program is doing worse...

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sorry just thought of it "Next time on 60 minutes, just how does your toaster work and why you shouldn't stick a butterknife in there to get your toast out."
 

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That article does not make sense. I was under the impression that mobsters and the mafia wanted to make money, not loose it. On the other side of that coin, I once went to Singapore and Malayasia where pirated moveis and devices were all over the streets. I was amazed that they had a huge group of people that moved around town each weekend selling pirated material, they had fliers announcing where they will be and when. I went in a mall in Malayasia and the bottom two floors were vendors selling pirated materials in store fronts. It was not just movies, it was almost anything you can think of. In thoses cases someone was making money because they sold them. In the 60 Minutes story, they said they gave it away - doesn't make sense.
 

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[citation][nom]mparham[/nom]That article does not make sense. I was under the impression that mobsters and the mafia wanted to make money, not loose it. On the other side of that coin, I once went to Singapore and Malayasia where pirated moveis and devices were all over the streets. I was amazed that they had a huge group of people that moved around town each weekend selling pirated material, they had fliers announcing where they will be and when. I went in a mall in Malayasia and the bottom two floors were vendors selling pirated materials in store fronts. It was not just movies, it was almost anything you can think of. In thoses cases someone was making money because they sold them. In the 60 Minutes story, they said they gave it away - doesn't make sense.[/citation]
The part they supposedly gave away was the digital version not the recorded-to-media version.
 
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"Oh, the people who record the movies aren’t the same people that do the uploading? Or they are?"

It sounds like you would prefer that "60 Minutes" not mention the case of Herardo Arellano because it is too confusing. Indeed, he sounds like he was working against himself by making the movies he was selling on DVD also available online. This detail, though confusing, is relevant to the story and I don't think the reporter(s) should have left it out. The show reported that Arellano was involved in both selling DVDs and uploading, and then (by showing a clip of the talking head from the MPAA) made it clear that this one bootlegger was the exception, not the rule.

While watching the show, I did find Arellano's motives mysterious, but I was not confused with the reporting and I did not find myself wishing that the detail had been left out.
 
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Cammed movies are AWESOME, the image quality is GREAT and the end product truly does COMPETE with watching the movie on the bid screen or on my blue ray. What is blue ray? Well now, that is some bleeding edge gee wiz rocket science stuff that I won't even attempt to explain because it would be WAY too confusing and over your head. Poor MPAA, they need MORE BAILOUT MONEY because of the MAFIA!
 
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This was just what it was suspected to be - a PR piece for viewing by judges and future jurors. Its purpose is to create and cement a mental connection between "organized crime" and any technology that the MPAA sees as an economic threat. I'm one of those "old people" who remembers that they planted the same stories about VCR's when that technology was in its infancy.

I can tell you it works on judges. Since I'm also an IP lawyer in real life, I've seen some really ridiculous "organized crime" stories trotted out for judicial consumption. And I've seen tech-naive judges go for the bait like hungry bass. After all, they saw this story on 60 Minutes, and they KNOW what that technology is for!
 

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Quite frankly: I hate this Hollywood crap, and millionair people whining about that they cannot buy a new nice diamond anymore. How about being paid as normal average Joe? would they like that? What kind of extra job do they do, what i could not? Anyway, untill an original movie will not be available online for less than 2$, till then they would not see any money from me.

Now you may ask, why am i so mean with the movie industry? The answer is simple: their product do NOT worth even 10% of the price they are asking for. Overall these people are supposed to be ARTISTS, who have their fun and satisfaction by acting/producing and so on. On top of this they should be honored with a decent salary of maximum 100.000$/year.

 

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I live in Mexico, for good and worst.

I buy all my movies in the correct way. Blue-Ray Preferable but I like good quality in sound and video. Most of the people see me as a rare guy.

If anyone come in a future to mexico take a look, go to any Subway Station or public market and you can find most of the movies for a less than $3 US. If you like to have bad quality in your movies! Is illegal but happens since I can´t remember is not new. Since Beta and VHS happens.

Internet make only more easy to do that.

Some problems appears and everyone said is horrible but as ecological areas that someone protect and you can compare with the ones that are not protected is a surprise to see the diference.

If the government of any country cares about that is solvable. Is not unsolvable but is education and attitude. I start with my kids is my only solution for the future. In my wiil is going to be a good collection of movies and series.

The problem of goverments is that finishes soon and the problem is for the next in the job. And problems like this need decades of constant work.

There is many ramifications of the origins and we could talk for years about that, measure but most of the people likes french fries instead of a good meal.

All the illegal opinion, interviews, years of jail are nothing if who needs to apply the law is short hand.

And is only one problem who has "light" in this moment.

Greetings
 

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[citation][nom]Tomsguiderachel[/nom]The part they supposedly gave away was the digital version not the recorded-to-media version.[/citation]

Well by that very argument piracy should be fine. I mean think about it. Obviously the pirated digital version isnt taking money away from the mob, so it shouldnt take money away from the big studios.
 

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This is just another government subsidized media outlet BS story. 64% of Americas Lamos suck it up. Hollywood are the real pirates. Taxpayers subsidize the production of their movies and media, They keep all the profit, their lobbyists payoff politicians to pass legislation to criminalize you.
 
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