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On 9/10/05 10:50 AM, in article ihDUe.21263$sw6.13505@fed1read05, "Skip M"
<shadowcatcher@cox.net> wrote:
> "Slack" <slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:tuOdnZ8s_9JXa7_eRVn-vw@giganews.com...
>> Skip M wrote:
>>> "John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bfd5i1pmkeraaph1rpi2keb6stnuufh34j@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:55:02 -0700, "Skip M" <shadowcatcher@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ke74i19ecr3tdl4msfuvie8u7ahu6feibc@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:00:38 GMT, JPS@no.komm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In message <j214i119v9snoskb46td689uci6q0gka9n@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> Rich <none@none.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd never know it from the magazine reviews.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
http
/www.publish.com/article2/0,1895,1855903,00.asp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can find a journalist to support just about any position.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are not told anything about the lenses used, etc, in comparing the
>>>>>>> 10MP Leica to the 17MP 1DsII. We don't know if Mancuso like aliasing;
>>>>>>> maybe the Leica has a weak AA filter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you read Guy's full report in his thread on Fred Miranada's
>>>>>> board. Guy is a working photographer not a journalist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http/www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/267995/0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take a look at his pictures and the discussion about why he thinks the
>>>>>> Lecia is better. He give all the details on lenses, etc here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http/www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/267995/0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A clue on lenses take a look at his gear list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good lord, one wonders what he used to make the comparo, doesn't one.
>>>>> Some
>>>>> of the finest fixed focal length lenses known to man, Leica mount and 8
>>>>> by
>>>>> count, and one lonely, if very good, Canon zoom. One wonders what the
>>>>> results would have been if he had compared the two cameras with, say,
>>>>> the
>>>>> Leica 50mm f2 summicron and the Canon 50mm f1.4, or the Leica 35mm f1.4
>>>>> summilux and the Canon 35mm f1.4L. And you know the edge sharpness was
>>>>> going to be better on the Leica, since it has a 1.5 (?) crop factor vs.
>>>>> the
>>>>> full frame of the Canon.
>>>>> I couldn't find any reference to lenses used in the comparison...
>>>>
>>>> Guy uses the Lecia lenses on his Canon. Same lenses on both bodies.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, didn't (and still don't) see where he said/says that...
>>> But what I said about edge sharpness still stands...
>>>
>>
http/www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/267995/6
>> --
>> Slack
>
> Thanks, but there's something weird going on there. The Leica 19mm on the
> Leica produces a warmer image than it does on the Canon in the first
> pairing. But the second pair of images, the Canon, is warmer than the
> Leica, maybe accounted for by the apparent overexposure. Just odd...he may
> have reversed the order, unintentionally, since the cooler image is
> apparently shot with a wider lens than the warmer one, in both cases.
> And at those sizes, it's hard to tell which is better than which.
It looked to me like _both_ of the Canon shots as posted were overexposed! I
suppose that Guy as a professional photographer knows what he is doing but
it kind of looks like he _wanted_ the Leica shots to come out better.
Chuck
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