divx (still) sucks

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I installed the new divx 4.12 codec and XMPEG 4.2a which THW raves on about. And YET again this piece of [-peep-] gives more blue screens and errors then anything else I've seen. I've been trying to use both divx-encoder , flask/xmpeg and virtual dub on different computersystems and it allways gives the same kind of instability problems. Is there nothing else to compress movies to a more acceptable size then these pieces of crap?
 
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you can get very nice Quality using TmpgEnc Encoding to Mpg1.
I am not talking about VCD. I am talking about using a much more high quality version of the Mpg1 encoding options.
 

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The problems you are having with divx may very well be sound related. Flask will not work with certain mp3 bitrates. Try a video with no sound to see if this is the problem.

Divx does not suck, Flask/Xmpeg is the largest source of your troube. Audio and bad rips cause Flask a lot of trouble. I use Fair Use or Nandub together with divx with very few problems comming from the video end of things. Fair Use does not do audio so sound must be compressed seperately and muxed in later. Fair Use is almost fully automated and is very easy to use except the sound. Check out Fair Use and Nandub at: <A HREF="http://www.doom9.net" target="_new">http://www.doom9.net</A>

BTW Fair Use (FU) only works on original dvds. It does not work on rips or captures. Nandub will work on rips and captures but Nandub is harder to use. Nandub is much faster then FU. Both FU and nandub use variable bit rates to achieve max quality within a preset file size. Nandub does this by running the compression once and collecting data and then it runs again using the information it collected in the first run. FU actually does 4 full compressions (or how ever many you pick) and then selects the best combination at any giving monent from each of the streams. The end result has some of all 4 streams in it depending on how much quality is needed at any given point. Check it out!

See also <A HREF="http://www.divx-digest.com" target="_new">http://www.divx-digest.com</A>

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I propose you take a look around this site www.everwicked.com and especially the guide to encoding...

Flask is the cause of your trouble... XMERG is just a version of flask...

Don't go near MPEG-1... Quality is much worse...

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What do you use for ripping the DVD? I recommend SmartRipper. After you rip the DVD, can you watch the movie with PowerDVD or WinDVD? Maybe there is a problem with ripping process.

Also, not all encoders work fine on all systems. Its strange to note that, Xmpeg doesn't work on my system whereas Flask works perfectly. All the settings are same in both encoders. Funny ha?

Anyway, FairUse is nice, as lakedude mentioned. However there is a small problem with FairUse (in fact there are two).

1) Sound must be mixed seperately.
2) It takes ages for encoding. On my system (1.1GHz Athlon) a regular movie takes 5-6 hours to encode with Flask + Divx4.12. If I use FairUse, it takes about 13 hours. Now thats LONG!!!

Personally, I don't use second pass encoding. From experience I saw that quality based encoding, with quality set to 90-95, ends up with an AVI of 1.3GB in size. So I can burn it into two CDs (I always use double CDs, so no problem here).

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I have watched Mpg1 files on a P75.

Yes, when you have a Dual 1Ghz monster like the one I have DviX work nice, but on the end, Not every one have a good computer, Not every one can install DviX codecs but every one need to be able to watch the CD's I make for my clients.

Using Mpg1 correct I can get very good quality.
I do every day.

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Care to tell me what I would need on my Duron 750 256 pc-133, radeon 7500 to read DviX CD movies? "Flask" ? Is that all?


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Just to VIEW Divx moves, got to divx.com and get the latest codex and possibly "The Playa". You'll need Flask to create Divx movies, not to view them.

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Those codex, they will integrat themselves in what: media player? surely not, right? I`m under Win98 SE.
I will certanly need a viewer like "The Playa" then. Any other viewer prog you can suggest?
Oh! And what about VCD format, you know what that is, cause I can get some movies in that format. What prog will be needed to view that format?
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Yep, they'll play just fine in Media Player with the codec installed, it's all standard stuff. It's probably a good idea to install Divx3.11 first, then install Divx4.12 afterwards (answering "no" when it asks if you want to use it to play 3.x content"

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VCDs? From memory there's a thing called a .dat file on the cd which can be renamed to .mpg and played using Media Player. I'm sure there's a better way to do this though :)

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