i'm confused

[Guest]

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> >I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat forums
> >that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a board
> >replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him. Seems
> >the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have several
> >VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for
years
> >and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189
for a
> >replacement board.
>
> I think I'm going to do my 920 and oldest 905, thanks for the headsup.
>
> I wonder if you could make a backup with the BDM connection like the
> 4play project uses to restore after some bad battery changing episode.

I'm waiting for someone to mention which battery would work best as a
replacement. Maybe from Radio shack?

As an alternative, what the voltage requirements are so I can look it up.

This could save me some time, and since some of someone here has already
been through this.
Thanks in advance

 

[Guest]

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 21:08:23 -0700, SAC441@webtv.net (SAC 441) wrote:

>As I understand it, it is the IPG people at Gemstar/TV Guide Data
>Corporation at an uplink facility in Pennsylvania that "maps" the
>channels.The only thing Motorola does is make deals with the programmers
>to use their DC2 technology.As far as manual tuning goes,pressing
>OPTIONS 6,7,7,8 and then keying in line selection number '1' will let
>you do this.I have done it many times before,mostly with Ku-Band

AFAIK, that lets you just maually tune a carrier, not tune a
particular channel on a carrier.

>channels.As for tuning digitals manually,using the 'generic' channel
>assignments usually reveals most "unmapped" channels that are not part
>of the IPG.I fail to see why you would even need a PC utility to do
>something like this.If you note their warning(s) on the so-called 4-PLAY
>tuner card,doing so can AND may mess up your receiver so it does not

The 4PLAY is not a tuner card, it is software that fiddles with the
channel map in a 4DTV, by transferring between the 4dTV and a PC with
a BDM cable, that interfaces to the 4DTV mainboard.

>function.Unless you are a signal engineer and really familiar with the
>technology or you just have a 4DTV 'hobby' receiver you just don't care
>about,I would NOT be doing this with a 4DTV receiver that you consider a
>prime piece of equipment.


Not correct. Gemstar, or TMS or else, supply the guide data to
Motorola, and they format it and uplink in on G10r, as well as create
maps per their customer's specs (customers being

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.video.satellite.4dtv (More info?)

On Sun, 09 May 2004 12:35:27 -0400, Gary Tait
<classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 May 2004 19:58:46 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 8 May 2004 14:58:05 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I think its like the VCII and keeps the unit ID, if the battery goes you get
>>>a different unit id, the analog works but the Digital does not., So it
>>>becomes a $20 used C/KU receiver and a BAD one at that. The only fix is a
>>>new board, that has a new battery and a new unit ID and cost $189. Motorola
>>>wont touch them. I think there should be a class action suite against them.
>>>They knew they would go bad and never put it in the manual and its not
>>>consumer replaceable. If you can solder, though you can replace it.
>>>
>>
>>You know these guys?
>>http/www.coolstf.com/4play/
>>
>>Thinking about spending the $120 for interface.
>>
>
>Won't backup the security chip, just the SRAM.


I was under the impression you could dump the entire flash.
I was hoping to learn how to authorize my dsr4200 with it's first hit
to use for FTA.
I guess I am barking up the wrong tree.

Anyone know a provider that will give me a hit on a DSR4200, they can
remove it from the list 5 seconds after I am authorized...

 

[Johnny]

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SAC 441 wrote:

> I don't care what Lyngsat says,I AM WATCHING NETV on T5.......channel
> 600 is NETV,601 is NETV 2 or also known as Educable,and 602 is NETITV or
> PBS You and 603 is NETV HD or the high definition channel of the
> format.There is also a suite of cable classroom channels from 610-617.I
> am watching it right now......all I can say is you most likely are not
> on the right satellite.I get a VERY STRONG DC2 signal lock.NETV has not
> gone anywhere,it has always been on Telstar 5 AND STILL IS...........

I did a master reset and I still can't get T5-600/601/602/603. I'm
definitely on the right satellite.

As for the discussion about batteries, if there is a battery in the VC II
module, mine has lasted a long time (over 10 years). I don't think my DC II
troubles are battery related since I get other DC II channels on T5 as well
as other satellites.

 

[JustMe]

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its a lithium ion battery. 3.7v you could parallel 2 AA batteries with it or
just buy a 3.7v lithium battery.


"scram" <scram@anon.com> wrote in message
news:K2wnc.99455$Jy3.75572@fed1read03...
>
> > >I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat
forums
> > >that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a board
> > >replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him.
Seems
> > >the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have
several
> > >VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for
> years
> > >and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189
> for a
> > >replacement board.
> >
> > I think I'm going to do my 920 and oldest 905, thanks for the headsup.
> >
> > I wonder if you could make a backup with the BDM connection like the
> > 4play project uses to restore after some bad battery changing episode.
>
> I'm waiting for someone to mention which battery would work best as a
> replacement. Maybe from Radio shack?
>
> As an alternative, what the voltage requirements are so I can look it up.
>
> This could save me some time, and since some of someone here has already
> been through this.
> Thanks in advance
>
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.video.satellite.4dtv (More info?)

On Sun, 09 May 2004 15:49:41 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 May 2004 12:35:27 -0400, Gary Tait
><classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 May 2004 19:58:46 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 8 May 2004 14:58:05 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think its like the VCII and keeps the unit ID, if the battery goes you get
>>>>a different unit id, the analog works but the Digital does not., So it
>>>>becomes a $20 used C/KU receiver and a BAD one at that. The only fix is a
>>>>new board, that has a new battery and a new unit ID and cost $189. Motorola
>>>>wont touch them. I think there should be a class action suite against them.
>>>>They knew they would go bad and never put it in the manual and its not
>>>>consumer replaceable. If you can solder, though you can replace it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You know these guys?
>>>http/www.coolstf.com/4play/
>>>
>>>Thinking about spending the $120 for interface.
>>>
>>
>>Won't backup the security chip, just the SRAM.
>
>
>I was under the impression you could dump the entire flash.
>I was hoping to learn how to authorize my dsr4200 with it's first hit
>to use for FTA.
>I guess I am barking up the wrong tree.
>

You can dump any memory the CPU can access. Unfotunately that does not
include that in the security chip.

>Anyone know a provider that will give me a hit on a DSR4200, they can
>remove it from the list 5 seconds after I am authorized...
>
>