i'm confused

[Johnny]

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According to lyngsat, NETV has gone to Digicipher 2 on Intelsat Americas 5?
If so, why isn't this satellite in the satellite list? It was on Telstar 5
but it appears that they are moving somewhere. The strange thing is that
Telstar 5 isn't shown in the lyngsat list. Whatever, NETV isn't on T5-600
or T5-601 anymore.

 

[Guest]

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I don't care what Lyngsat says,I AM WATCHING NETV on T5.......channel
600 is NETV,601 is NETV 2 or also known as Educable,and 602 is NETITV or
PBS You and 603 is NETV HD or the high definition channel of the
format.There is also a suite of cable classroom channels from 610-617.I
am watching it right now......all I can say is you most likely are not
on the right satellite.I get a VERY STRONG DC2 signal lock.NETV has not
gone anywhere,it has always been on Telstar 5 AND STILL IS...........

 

[Guest]

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I believe T5 has been renamed to IA5 but is still in the same location.

 

[Guest]

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In article <IbZlc.7566$Hs1.402@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
>According to lyngsat, NETV has gone to Digicipher 2 on Intelsat Americas 5?
>If so, why isn't this satellite in the satellite list? It was on Telstar 5
>but it appears that they are moving somewhere. The strange thing is that
>Telstar 5 isn't shown in the lyngsat list. Whatever, NETV isn't on T5-600
>or T5-601 anymore.
>
>
IA5 is the same as T5. When the sat's were sold they changed designations.


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[Guest]

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Speaking of NETV 610-617 for awhile there I couldn't understand why when I
first got 4dtv they were there,then some months ago they weren't.

I went to all the trouble of trying to "reset" etc,only find out later they
WERE back....ie: they switched the feeds off!

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"SAC 441" <SAC441@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I don't care what Lyngsat says,I AM WATCHING NETV on T5.......channel
> 600 is NETV,601 is NETV 2 or also known as Educable,and 602 is NETITV or
> PBS You and 603 is NETV HD or the high definition channel of the
> format.There is also a suite of cable classroom channels from 610-617.I
> am watching it right now......all I can say is you most likely are not
> on the right satellite.I get a VERY STRONG DC2 signal lock.NETV has not
> gone anywhere,it has always been on Telstar 5 AND STILL IS...........
>


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[Johnny]

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SAC 441 wrote:

> I don't care what Lyngsat says,I AM WATCHING NETV on T5.......channel
> 600 is NETV,601 is NETV 2 or also known as Educable,and 602 is NETITV or
> PBS You and 603 is NETV HD or the high definition channel of the
> format.There is also a suite of cable classroom channels from 610-617.I
> am watching it right now......all I can say is you most likely are not
> on the right satellite.I get a VERY STRONG DC2 signal lock.NETV has not
> gone anywhere,it has always been on Telstar 5 AND STILL IS...........


I'm on the right satellite since I see slates on T5-603/604/605...... but
nothing on 600 or 601 or 602.

 

[Guest]

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Do have a green led and digital lock?

IF so,sounds like your channel maps are corrupt.

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> SAC 441 wrote:
>
> > I don't care what Lyngsat says,I AM WATCHING NETV on T5.......channel
> > 600 is NETV,601 is NETV 2 or also known as Educable,and 602 is NETITV or
> > PBS You and 603 is NETV HD or the high definition channel of the
> > format.There is also a suite of cable classroom channels from 610-617.I
> > am watching it right now......all I can say is you most likely are not
> > on the right satellite.I get a VERY STRONG DC2 signal lock.NETV has not
> > gone anywhere,it has always been on Telstar 5 AND STILL IS...........
>
>
> I'm on the right satellite since I see slates on T5-603/604/605...... but
> nothing on 600 or 601 or 602.
>


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[Johnny]

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Valdivar wrote:

> Do have a green led and digital lock?
>

No green DC light on 600/601/602/603/616/617 but I do have a DC light on
610/611/612/613/614/615.

Maybe a master reset will fix it? I've already tried unplugging it 3 times
(5 minute off time before reapplying power).

Mine's a 922.

 

[JustMe]

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I lost all my digitals, the battery went bad and I unplugged it and the unit
ID changed. Beware replace your battery if its more than 5 years old.


<johnny@n0sq.net> wrote in message
news:LMzmc.10023$Hs1.2609@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Valdivar wrote:
>
> > Do have a green led and digital lock?
> >
>
> No green DC light on 600/601/602/603/616/617 but I do have a DC light on
> 610/611/612/613/614/615.
>
> Maybe a master reset will fix it? I've already tried unplugging it 3 times
> (5 minute off time before reapplying power).
>
> Mine's a 922.
>
>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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I have the same battery that came with the introduction of the VC2 (?)
board. I think that was more than a decade ago.

 

[Johnny]

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I didn't all digitals, only certain ones. Besides, my 922 is only 2 years
old.

JustMe wrote:

> I lost all my digitals, the battery went bad and I unplugged it and the
> unit ID changed. Beware replace your battery if its more than 5 years old.
>
>
> <johnny@n0sq.net> wrote in message
> news:LMzmc.10023$Hs1.2609@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Valdivar wrote:
>>
>> > Do have a green led and digital lock?
>> >
>>
>> No green DC light on 600/601/602/603/616/617 but I do have a DC light on
>> 610/611/612/613/614/615.
>>
>> Maybe a master reset will fix it? I've already tried unplugging it 3
>> times (5 minute off time before reapplying power).
>>
>> Mine's a 922.
>>
>>
>>
>>

 

[JustMe]

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I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat forums
that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a board
replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him. Seems
the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have several
VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for years
and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189 for a
replacement board.


"Fred Schwaner" <f.schwaner@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I have the same battery that came with the introduction of the VC2 (?)
> board. I think that was more than a decade ago.
>
>

 

[Guest]

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 02:50:08 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat forums
>that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a board
>replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him. Seems
>the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have several
>VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for years
>and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189 for a
>replacement board.

I think I'm going to do my 920 and oldest 905, thanks for the headsup.

I wonder if you could make a backup with the BDM connection like the
4play project uses to restore after some bad battery changing episode.

 

[Guest]

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I never knew that the 920 also had a battery. I have had it since July 97
and always thought it was the VC2 board. Thanks.

 

[Guest]

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On Sat, 08 May 2004 11:58:02 GMT, "Fred Schwaner"
<f.schwaner@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I never knew that the 920 also had a battery. I have had it since July 97
>and always thought it was the VC2 board. Thanks.
>

There is one for keeping settings and security for the DCII.

 

[JustMe]

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I think its like the VCII and keeps the unit ID, if the battery goes you get
a different unit id, the analog works but the Digital does not., So it
becomes a $20 used C/KU receiver and a BAD one at that. The only fix is a
new board, that has a new battery and a new unit ID and cost $189. Motorola
wont touch them. I think there should be a class action suite against them.
They knew they would go bad and never put it in the manual and its not
consumer replaceable. If you can solder, though you can replace it.

"kryppy" <kryppy@.> wrote in message
news:dfkp905mqbk96dc3r77l4im3vnfgt6qies@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 8 May 2004 02:50:08 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat forums
> >that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a board
> >replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him. Seems
> >the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have several
> >VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for
years
> >and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189
for a
> >replacement board.
>
> I think I'm going to do my 920 and oldest 905, thanks for the headsup.
>
> I wonder if you could make a backup with the BDM connection like the
> 4play project uses to restore after some bad battery changing episode.
>
>

 

[Guest]

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 14:58:05 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I think its like the VCII and keeps the unit ID, if the battery goes you get
>a different unit id, the analog works but the Digital does not., So it
>becomes a $20 used C/KU receiver and a BAD one at that. The only fix is a
>new board, that has a new battery and a new unit ID and cost $189. Motorola
>wont touch them. I think there should be a class action suite against them.
>They knew they would go bad and never put it in the manual and its not
>consumer replaceable. If you can solder, though you can replace it.
>

You know these guys?
http/www.coolstf.com/4play/

Thinking about spending the $120 for interface.


>"kryppy" <kryppy@.> wrote in message
>news:dfkp905mqbk96dc3r77l4im3vnfgt6qies@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 8 May 2004 02:50:08 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat forums
>> >that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a board
>> >replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him. Seems
>> >the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have several
>> >VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for
>years
>> >and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189
>for a
>> >replacement board.
>>
>> I think I'm going to do my 920 and oldest 905, thanks for the headsup.
>>
>> I wonder if you could make a backup with the BDM connection like the
>> 4play project uses to restore after some bad battery changing episode.
>>
>>
>

 

[JustMe]

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I have heard of them and read what they have. In short the 4dtv gets channel
maps from Motorola. They do NOT map all the channels, including some FTA
channels. A while back you could find some porno channels in the clear. The
problem is that you couldn't tune the channels on the 4DTV, so you have to
trick it, by choosing another sat that is unused and changing its position
to the sat that has the channels you want to watch. Then manually tune the
polarity and you get them. 4Play allows you to define any channel.like you
would get on a standard c/ku receiver. It is supposed to work with the
digitals also, However I don't think if the battery has changed the unit ID,
the receiver cant be authorized for the digitals, and guide because it cant
take a hit. If one could use this unit to change the user ID, I would
defiantly buy one.



"kryppy" <kryppy@.> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 8 May 2004 14:58:05 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think its like the VCII and keeps the unit ID, if the battery goes you
get
> >a different unit id, the analog works but the Digital does not., So it
> >becomes a $20 used C/KU receiver and a BAD one at that. The only fix is a
> >new board, that has a new battery and a new unit ID and cost $189.
Motorola
> >wont touch them. I think there should be a class action suite against
them.
> >They knew they would go bad and never put it in the manual and its not
> >consumer replaceable. If you can solder, though you can replace it.
> >
>
> You know these guys?
> http/www.coolstf.com/4play/
>
> Thinking about spending the $120 for interface.
>
>
> >"kryppy" <kryppy@.> wrote in message
> >news:dfkp905mqbk96dc3r77l4im3vnfgt6qies@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 8 May 2004 02:50:08 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat
forums
> >> >that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a
board
> >> >replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him.
Seems
> >> >the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have
several
> >> >VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for
> >years
> >> >and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189
> >for a
> >> >replacement board.
> >>
> >> I think I'm going to do my 920 and oldest 905, thanks for the headsup.
> >>
> >> I wonder if you could make a backup with the BDM connection like the
> >> 4play project uses to restore after some bad battery changing episode.
> >>
> >>
> >
>

 

[Guest]

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As I understand it, it is the IPG people at Gemstar/TV Guide Data
Corporation at an uplink facility in Pennsylvania that "maps" the
channels.The only thing Motorola does is make deals with the programmers
to use their DC2 technology.As far as manual tuning goes,pressing
OPTIONS 6,7,7,8 and then keying in line selection number '1' will let
you do this.I have done it many times before,mostly with Ku-Band
channels.As for tuning digitals manually,using the 'generic' channel
assignments usually reveals most "unmapped" channels that are not part
of the IPG.I fail to see why you would even need a PC utility to do
something like this.If you note their warning(s) on the so-called 4-PLAY
tuner card,doing so can AND may mess up your receiver so it does not
function.Unless you are a signal engineer and really familiar with the
technology or you just have a 4DTV 'hobby' receiver you just don't care
about,I would NOT be doing this with a 4DTV receiver that you consider a
prime piece of equipment.

 

[Guest]

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On Sat, 08 May 2004 19:58:46 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:

>On Sat, 8 May 2004 14:58:05 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I think its like the VCII and keeps the unit ID, if the battery goes you get
>>a different unit id, the analog works but the Digital does not., So it
>>becomes a $20 used C/KU receiver and a BAD one at that. The only fix is a
>>new board, that has a new battery and a new unit ID and cost $189. Motorola
>>wont touch them. I think there should be a class action suite against them.
>>They knew they would go bad and never put it in the manual and its not
>>consumer replaceable. If you can solder, though you can replace it.
>>
>
>You know these guys?
>http/www.coolstf.com/4play/
>
>Thinking about spending the $120 for interface.
>

Won't backup the security chip, just the SRAM.
>
>>"kryppy" <kryppy@.> wrote in message
>>news:dfkp905mqbk96dc3r77l4im3vnfgt6qies@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 8 May 2004 02:50:08 -0500, "JustMe" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I'm talking about the battery in the 4DTV. I just read in the sat forums
>>> >that one person had a battery go bad in 2 years and when he had a board
>>> >replacement it came with a 1998 battery which also went bad on him. Seems
>>> >the batteries were inferior to the ones in the VCII. I also have several
>>> >VCII modules with original batteries and some have been unplugged for
>>years
>>> >and there still good. If you have a 920 replace the batter or pay $189
>>for a
>>> >replacement board.
>>>
>>> I think I'm going to do my 920 and oldest 905, thanks for the headsup.
>>>
>>> I wonder if you could make a backup with the BDM connection like the
>>> 4play project uses to restore after some bad battery changing episode.
>>>
>>>
>>