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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:50:42 -0500, Phil <philj@xxspearnet.net> wrote:
>Gary,
>
>What is the Canadian DTH style package? I have never heard
>of that.
>
Basically it is a group of 5-10 channels in a package. The package
sells for $6.99 or so, and is somewhat thematically "built".
You get a better deal if you buy an overpackage, where you can choose
what packages you like from their lineup, and any packages you want
you add to that price.
I have Silver, wich gives me Essentials (you have to get anyway, you
cannot just buy cable channels in Canada, which is essentially mostly
locals and a small handfull of basic cable channels), a 3 packages. I
have a couple Pick and pay. channels, which Starchoice began to offer
the new digitial cable channels that came in Sept 2001, and recently a
couple previous cable channels.
>When you say not channels are not available do you mean
>the transponders are nearly all spoken for?
If you have money, you can always get transponder space. When I say
you won't have enough channels for an Alacarte service, that enough,
broacdasters, or at least the key ones, would decline to participate
in such a venture.
>Also, you threw me there on the PowerVu / DSR905. I have
>a DSR905 Sidecar and a PowerVu 9834 but I didn't follow
>your idea on that. (I need a replacement remote for the
>9834 if anyone has an extra, by the way.)
>
Basically the 9834 is a single service receiver (IMO the equivalent of
the GI 4200 receiver). Any receiver that would be suitable for home
C-band would have to be able to store many channels, and be able
maintain the authorisation for numerous channels. I believe it would
also take a slight redo of the uplinks as well, to accomodate a
consumer authorisation stream .
>I have a C band in the yard and it is still ugly...
>and I still wish I could get alacarte on Ku, digicipher,
>DVMPEG or whatever... Check out the SES site where they
>say the upcoming bird is for that sort of thing.
Last I heard, that bird was to provide an international service, not
anything providing "domestic" cable channels.
>And believe it or not, on the way home from work today NPR had
>a news item about a senator from Georgia (I think) who was
>pushing a bill requiring alacarte on cable--says the providers
>(including Viacom of Janet Jackson fame) are using large
>programming packages to exploit customers and propagate
>off-color programming. Oh well.
>
>Thanks for your info. Always like to follow your posts
>in the groups.
>
>phil (wish I only had a little one)
>
>
>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:27:25 -0500, Phil <philj@xxspearnet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Gary Tait <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote in
>>>news:m09gh097h25b9jve7i9716jkhpp75vu77k@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> It won't offer the bandwidth of the C-band arc, and there
>>>> won't be any buisness incentive to uplink channels up to a Ku
>>>> satellite exclusively for home subscribers. You have to
>>>> remember the purpose of C-band is not to get home subscribers,
>>>> but to deliver to broadcasters and cable companies. One Ku
>>>> slot won't help their purpose.
>>>
>>>Actually, the point I guess I failed to adequately make was that
>>>I think many people don't like to pay the cost of a Dishnet or
>>>DirectTV subscription which gets many channels, but a relatively
>>>small percentage of interest to that subscriber. It is my
>>>opinion that a sufficient number of customers who would like ala
>>>carte service exist to provide a business that could compete
>>>with those two providers. I was not really commenting about the
>>>"purpose of C band". When the big two started, the "purpose of
>>>Ku band" was not
>>
>>
>>
>>>direct delivery of media to the end user either, but they made a
>>>market and now reap its profit. Perhaps a clever entrepreneur
>>>(why are all the nifty words hard to spell?) could make his
>>>fortune in that...
>>>
>>
>> To make an Alacarte Ku pay system work is next to impossible.
>> You need channels and quantitiy, neither which you'd get
>> Ala-Carte (you'd get some customers, but importantly, the
>> broadcasters would not want to be part of an Alacarte system).
>> If you want to put your money in something, I'd say come up with
>> a home PowerVu system like the DSR905. Another concept may be
>> the Canadain DTH style packages.
>>
>>>I also hinted at the idea that I preferred Ku band equipment to
>>>C band equipment. I did not specify that that is because of the
>>>size of the dish and of course, I should have. Many of us
>>>don't have the room or don't care for the way it looks in the
>>>yard.