Obama Admin Creating ''Shadow'' Internet

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.So $52 million for "shadow Internet"...wow....How many teachers were fired this week? Is country is so screwed up with its priorities.
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The correct answer Bob is "what is not enough?"

Really we can't get rid of teachers fast enough. Other than a few classes that will require hands on instruction no matter what and younger children who lack the discipline to study on their own, many teachers became redundant the instant the History channel and Discovery channel aired their first shows. Many more will follow as sites like the Kahn Academy and the online programs at major universities become more robust.

Education has become the great jobs program for the maginally employable.
 
You do realize that the point of this is for American Intelligence to monitor all of the activity going across this "Shadow Netowork" right?

They send in suitcases and "give" everyone free access, but they neglect to tell you that they are monitoring everything going across those networks....
 
'So $52 million for "shadow Internet"...wow....How many teachers were fired this week? Is country is so screwed up with its priorities.'

I see $2M for the "shadow internet" and $50M [+] for something somewhat unrelated [cell network], but lets add them together anyways. And lets call it $52M/year, not $52M total in an unspecified timeframe.

$52M divided by 100k us primary and secondary schools in the US = $520 per school. Figuring $44k for an average teacher [just saw the 25th and 75th percentile in the US is about $33k and $55k], then we're talking one extra teacher per 85 schools. This money doesn't even make a dent in any financial problems in the public school system.
 
[citation][nom]SmileyTPB1[/nom]Great, now Obama is going to claim that he invented the internet.[/citation]

This could be used for good and for evil. PS, people, Al Gore never said he invented the internet, and it is very true that he was quite instrumental in bringing the internet to the masses, when very few people including computer scientist knew what it was, and that was back in the 70's. The guy is actually pretty freaking smart. And two "fathers" of the internet Robert Kahn and Vincent Cerf, some of the leading guys who developed the technologies that the internet is based including tcp/ip ... actually wrote a letter coming to bat for Gore during his campaign explaining how important he was to the movement back even in the 70's from tacking the concept from theory to reality, and seeing the vast business and educational potential before the private sector had a clue. Remember Gore did write the book Information Superhighway and actually is credited with coining that phrase back in 1993.

So, while people joke about Gores credibility on the internet, it is no laughing matter, the guy actually is quite geeky, and was the spearhead from the legislative point of getting the nascient internet to the masses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology

The irony is it's virtually impossible to get the truth out when it comes to politics. Gore never claimed he invented the internet, but he was extremely influential in bringing the internet to the masses, well before, the internet was "the internet".
 
As Vice President, Gore promoted the development of what he referred to as the Information Superhighway. This was discussed in detail a few days after winning the election in November 1992 in The New York Times article "Clinton to Promote High Technology, With Gore in Charge."[16] They planned to finance research "that will flood the economy with innovative goods and services, lifting the general level of prosperity and strengthening American industry."[16] Specifically, they were aiming to fund the development of "robotics, smart roads, biotechnology, machine tools, magnetic-levitation trains, fiber-optic communications, and national computer networks. Also earmarked are a raft of basic technologies like digital imaging and data storage."[16] These initiatives were met with some skepticism from critics who claimed that "the initiative is likely to backfire, bloating Congressional pork, and creating whole new categories of Federal waste." [16] These initiatives were outlined in the report Technology for America's Economic Growth.[17] In September 1993, they released a report calling for the creation of a "nationwide information superhighway," which would primarily be built by private industry.[18] Gary Stix commented on these initiatives a few months prior in his May 1993 article for Scientific American, "Gigabit Gestalt: Clinton and Gore embrace an activist technology policy." Stix described them as a "distinct statement about where the new administration stands on the matter of technology [...] Gone is the ambivalence or outright hostility toward government involvement in little beyond basic science. Although Gore is most famous for his political career and environmental work, he is also noted for his creation of the internet."[19] Campbell-Kelly and Aspray further note in Computer: A History of the Information Machine:

In the early 1990s the Internet was big news.... In the fall of 1990, there were just 313,000 computers on the Internet; by 1996, there were close to 10 million. The networking idea became politicized during the 1992 Clinton-Gore election campaign, where the rhetoric of the information highway captured the public imagination. On taking office in 1993, the new administration set in place a range of government initiatives for a National Information Infrastructure aimed at ensuring that all American citizens ultimately gain access to the new networks.[20]

These initiatives were discussed in a number of venues. Howard Rheingold argued in the 1994 afterword to his noted text, The Virtual Community: Homesteading on the Electronic Frontier, that these initiatives played a critical role in the development of digital technology, stating that, "Two powerful forces drove the rapid emergence of the superhighway notion in 1994 [...]. The second driving force behind the superhighway idea continued to be Vice-President Gore."[21] In addition, Clinton and Gore submitted the report, Science in the National Interest in 1994,[22] which further outlined their plans to develop science and technology in the United States. Gore also discussed these plans in speeches that he made at The Superhighway Summit[23] at UCLA and for the International Telecommunications Union.[24]

On January 13, 1994 Gore "became the first U.S. vice president to hold a live interactive news conference on an international computer network".[25] Gore was also asked to write the foreword to the 1993 internet guide, The Internet Companion: A Beginner’s Guide to Global Networking (1st edition) by Tracy LaQuey. In the foreword, he stated the following:

Since I first became interested in high-speed networking almost seventeen years ago, there have been many major advances both in the technology and in public awareness. Articles on high-speed networks are commonplace in major newspapers and in news magazines. In contrast, when as a House member in the early 1980s, I called for creation of a national network of "information superhighways," the only people interested were the manufacturers of optical fiber. Back then, of course, high-speed meant 56,000 bits per second. Today we are building a national information infrastructure that will carry billions of bits of data per second, serve thousands of users simultaneously, and transmit not only electronic mail and data files but voice and video as well.[26]
 
[citation][nom]acadia11[/nom]As Vice President, Gore promoted the development of what he referred to as the Information Superhighway. This was discussed in detail a few days after winning the election in November 1992 in The New York Times article "Clinton to Promote High Technology, With Gore in Charge."[16] They planned to finance research "that will flood the economy with innovative goods and services, lifting the general level of prosperity and strengthening American industry."[16] Specifically, they were aiming to fund the development of "robotics, smart roads, biotechnology, machine tools, magnetic-levitation trains, fiber-optic communications, and national computer networks. Also earmarked are a raft of basic technologies like digital imaging and data storage."[16] These initiatives were met with some skepticism from critics who claimed that "the initiative is likely to backfire, bloating Congressional pork, and creating whole new categories of Federal waste." [16] These initiatives were outlined in the report Technology for America's Economic Growth.[17] In September 1993, they released a report calling for the creation of a "nationwide information superhighway," which would primarily be built by private industry.[18] Gary Stix commented on these initiatives a few months prior in his May 1993 article for Scientific American, "Gigabit Gestalt: Clinton and Gore embrace an activist technology policy." Stix described them as a "distinct statement about where the new administration stands on the matter of technology [...] Gone is the ambivalence or outright hostility toward government involvement in little beyond basic science. Although Gore is most famous for his political career and environmental work, he is also noted for his creation of the internet."[19] Campbell-Kelly and Aspray further note in Computer: A History of the Information Machine:In the early 1990s the Internet was big news.... In the fall of 1990, there were just 313,000 computers on the Internet; by 1996, there were close to 10 million. The networking idea became politicized during the 1992 Clinton-Gore election campaign, where the rhetoric of the information highway captured the public imagination. On taking office in 1993, the new administration set in place a range of government initiatives for a National Information Infrastructure aimed at ensuring that all American citizens ultimately gain access to the new networks.[20]These initiatives were discussed in a number of venues. Howard Rheingold argued in the 1994 afterword to his noted text, The Virtual Community: Homesteading on the Electronic Frontier, that these initiatives played a critical role in the development of digital technology, stating that, "Two powerful forces drove the rapid emergence of the superhighway notion in 1994 [...]. The second driving force behind the superhighway idea continued to be Vice-President Gore."[21] In addition, Clinton and Gore submitted the report, Science in the National Interest in 1994,[22] which further outlined their plans to develop science and technology in the United States. Gore also discussed these plans in speeches that he made at The Superhighway Summit[23] at UCLA and for the International Telecommunications Union.[24]On January 13, 1994 Gore "became the first U.S. vice president to hold a live interactive news conference on an international computer network".[25] Gore was also asked to write the foreword to the 1993 internet guide, The Internet Companion: A Beginner’s Guide to Global Networking (1st edition) by Tracy LaQuey. In the foreword, he stated the following:Since I first became interested in high-speed networking almost seventeen years ago, there have been many major advances both in the technology and in public awareness. Articles on high-speed networks are commonplace in major newspapers and in news magazines. In contrast, when as a House member in the early 1980s, I called for creation of a national network of "information superhighways," the only people interested were the manufacturers of optical fiber. Back then, of course, high-speed meant 56,000 bits per second. Today we are building a national information infrastructure that will carry billions of bits of data per second, serve thousands of users simultaneously, and transmit not only electronic mail and data files but voice and video as well.[26][/citation]
All Gore is an ass-clown
 
Who knew that Tom's Hardware readers were a bunch of lunatic conspiracy theorists so blinded by rhetoric that they refuse to even entertain the fact that the government is trying to help people.

All you lunatics ever talk about is how the government is always wrong. So why in the hell do you even bother arguing? Why do you live here? Why don't you just pack up your guns and go hide in the woods with the rest of the McVeighs?

The problems with this country have less to do with the government and more to do with the insanely ignorant and gullible population feeding into bullshit and extremes.
 
[citation][nom]Sabiancym[/nom]The problems with this country have less to do with the government and more to do with the insanely ignorant and gullible population feeding into bullshit and extremes.[/citation]

I'm no wacko conspiracy theorist, but I'm also not part of the "Sheeple" populace that believes everything the Gov't or the mainstream media tells them.

Anyone that thinks the Govt has your best interests in mind, when making some of these silly new laws, like the Patriot ACT, COICA, PIPA(Protect IP Act) ACTA etc etc, is apparently not paying attention.

Our country is going down hill and both the Govt and the people are to blame. The people only because a very large portion apparently don't care/ or don't know what's going on.
 
[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]All Gore is an ass-clown[/citation]


That is a matter of opinion what is not opinion is that it is quite true that he was quite influential in helping create the internet. That's not a disputable claim that is a fact, he didn't invent, but Gore helped considerably bringing it to the masses.
 
Former UCLA professor of information studies, Philip E. Agre and journalist Eric Boehlert argued that three articles in Wired News led to the creation of the widely spread urban legend that Gore claimed to have "invented the Internet," which followed this interview.[53][54][55] Jim Wilkinson, who at the time was working as congressman Dick Armey's spokesman, also helped sell the idea that Gore claimed to have "invented the internet."[56][57][58] Computer professionals and congressional colleagues argued against this characterization. Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn stated that "we don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he 'invented' the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet."[54][59] Cerf would also later state: "Al Gore had seen what happened with the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act of 1956, which his father introduced as a military bill. It was very powerful. Housing went up, suburban boom happened, everybody became mobile. Al was attuned to the power of networking much more than any of his elective colleagues. His initiatives led directly to the commercialization of the Internet. So he really does deserve credit."[60]
 
Former Republican Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich also stated: "In all fairness, it's something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet, but in all fairness, Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet, and the truth is -- and I worked with him starting in 1978 when I got [to Congress], we were both part of a "futures group" -- the fact is, in the Clinton administration, the world we had talked about in the '80s began to actually happen."[61] Finally, Wolf Blitzer (who conducted the original 1999 interview) stated in 2008 that: "I didn't ask him about the Internet. I asked him about the differences he had with Bill Bradley [...] Honestly, at the time, when he said it, it didn't dawn on me that this was going to have the impact that it wound up having, because it was distorted to a certain degree and people said they took what he said, which was a carefully phrased comment about taking the initiative and creating the Internet to—I invented the Internet. And that was the sort of shorthand, the way his enemies projected it and it wound up being a devastating setback to him and it hurt him, as I'm sure he acknowledges to this very day.
 
[citation][nom]felipex[/nom]This coming from a Country that prohibited exporting of strong cryptographic algorithms, which could have been used to promote free speech in secure networks. A Country that tries to scoop into everyone's messages on the internet. Well, you can say what you want but it doesn't change anything, just like Justin Sullivan said decades ago...[/citation]
If your thoughs can't be communicated because internet is blocked then how can uncle sam listen in?

This is the perfect tool... let them talk via the interent,we want to listen.

I do see how this is helpfull to "the people" in places like China or Egypt. BUT it will also be helpful to those who want to listen in :)
 
great america goes 100 billion more into debt every month to give a country we are at war with internet and cell phone towers. how about we keep that 52 million to pay the month interest on the 14.4 trillion dollar national debt.
unless this program finishes off the war on communism and helps take down china, north korea and cuba, and the democratic and republican parties it's not worth even doing.
 
[citation][nom]cliffro[/nom]I'm no wacko conspiracy theorist, but I'm also not part of the "Sheeple" populace that believes everything the Gov't or the mainstream media tells them.Anyone that thinks the Govt has your best interests in mind, when making some of these silly new laws, like the Patriot ACT, COICA, PIPA(Protect IP Act) ACTA etc etc, is apparently not paying attention.Our country is going down hill and both the Govt and the people are to blame. The people only because a very large portion apparently don't care/ or don't know what's going on.[/citation]

Anyone who uses the word "sheeple" is usually at least leaning of the edge of insanity and extremism.
 
[citation][nom]Silmarunya[/nom]And that's exactly the problem. A lot of countries don't allow their citizens to speak up. This shadow internet enables clandestine communication between opposition members, something that would be a vast improvement for democracy movements everywhere.[/citation]
do you really think that there will be no control?
 
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