Obama Contemplating Three-Strikes Piracy Law

[bkinder83]

Everyone happy with the "change" that was bought into during the Presidential campaign?

 

[antilycus]

ISP's wont be happy and how exactly are they going to determine if I am downloading illegally? All you'll see is more encrypted data over the lines. As it sits right now, most ISP's cant even track what you are downloading without clogging up their bandwidth provided to the customer. Its why logging, by default, is turned off at major providers. Not to mention a host of other things that can be done like spoofing IP address/mac addresses and using a proxy to download the data. Point being, the technology is already in place to prevent the ISP's to determine what you are downloading, its only going to get better. I'd love to see Time Warner try and get through a 256bit-cryptograph data encryption PER PACKET.

 

[smithereen]

Get it done, Obama

 

[Hellbound]

There goes Obama again with his socialist agenda.... Ignoring due process.. You people who voted for him must really like the government telling you what to do, how to live.

 

[rwooster]

Yeah a 3 strikes policy would be unfortunate, but I'm reading the conclusions here, and I'm thinking these are from what, tween-agers? I mean a little critical thinking please.

1. We are losing our freedoms. Yeah your freedom to steal. Not likely you'd whine about how Obama going after the ultra rich tax cheaters hiding wealth in Switzerland. The common reaction is "Yeah, go get the SOBs". Common theme here -- thread the logic please. Answer -- He's going after thieves.
2. Service providers won't go for this. Um yeah they will. Pirates jam up the bandwidth and download way more than regular users. I'll refer you to what Comcast is trying to do in limiting bandwidth and their usage statistics.
3. This is a violation of my civil liberties. Wrong, neither the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights guarantees you the right to steal someone's property from them. People just don't like to think of it as stealing because it seems victimless as they do it.
4. They'll need to enact a new govt bureaucracy to enforce this. No. This would be enforced by the service provider. As to appeals like when someone's hacked your router, sure that could be true but it's more likely the service provider would handle the appeal as well.

 

[mavanhel]

[citation][nom]korsen[/nom]Also - why the hell is firefox (or toms) underlining firefox and google for capitalization? THEY ARE NOT COUNTRIES! THEY ARE OBJECTS! I DO NOT CAPITALIZE THE WORD CAR IN MY DAILY SENTENCE STRUCTURE! BAD DOG![/citation]

Actually, both Google and Firefox are known as things called proper nouns, or in lay terms, names. If your name is John, would you capitalize the "J"? Yes, because that's how names work, and it's the same thing with Firefox, Google, and any other company out there.

[citation][nom]pink315[/nom]haha, oh America. Come up to Canada guys, where nothing can happen to you for torrenting anything. Plus we solved that healthcare debacle ages ago[/citation]

Yup, one of the great things about living in Canada, this and no need to use DRM. While you can't be touched for downloading in Canada, if you're caught uploading the same material then you can get screwed over.

 

[acadia11]

You know what I don't mind regulation, but how about we regulate the greedy corporate a$$holes who've ruined this country, and stop worrying about the little guy so much. When they decide to give me my bailout money back after their hijack, I'll decide to stop pirating. And to think I voted for Obama, just another tool in the crowd, backs down on the public option and now wants to make sure to step his foot on our necks. How about you go regulate the people that really need to be regulated. How about 3 strikes of screwing up our economy and you lose your corporation how about that policy.

 

[methal]

sounds like another waste of our tax money.

I doubt if that dolt even knows how to use the internet.

 

[alabasterboy]

Free speech? Due process? Bueller, Bueller?

 

[totheshed]

[citation][nom]dacman61[/nom]How many times do I have to see the word "losing" incorrectly spelled?? It's not spelled "loosing"![/citation]

Umm.... Loosing is not really a common word. Loose is an antonym of tight. Looseness, loosely, etc. So, you are wrong. Exactly opposite of what you said.

 

[bildo123]

[citation][nom]brendano257[/nom]Can we also apply the three strikes rule to greedy corporate *ssholes?[/citation]

Wouldn't matter, they need just one strike to hit it big. I for one think this is a good deal.

 

[freename]

James Murdoch claims piracy is no different to "going into a store and stealing Pringles or a handbag."

Except when a handbag is stolen, the original owner no longer has the physical item to sell anymore.
The movie studios still have the movie there to sell, they just lose a possible sale (would the downloaders have bought the movie if they couldn't download it? Probably not, IMO).

 

[JJBB]

This administration wants as much control as possible.

 

[gorehound]

i would stop buying any new corporate hollywood films.just try and find used products.
screw you hollywood.the usa folks will be pissed if this 3 strike krap happens here.

 

[westerbamos]

I think that piracy is actually a good thing for the entertainment industry, because it forces companies to make better products and treat their customers better to convince them to buy things rather than pirate. Also, just because someone pirates something doesn't mean that they don't also buy things legitimately through the internet. Totally cutting off their internet would make companies lose a lot of sales because people would be unable to buy their products.

 

[retirepresident]

I remember in the late 60's movie(watch 3-4 movies),soda,popcorn and hot dog for 1.50. Now,7.50-10.25,Imax 11.00-13.00,Imax 3D 15.00-16.75,soda 4.00-5.00,popcorn 4.00-10.00,hot dog 4.00-5.00. Low 19.50 High 28.00.!@#$ Greed. It cost me(wife,18yr kid)50.00-Imax 75.00.

 

[wifiwolf]

I don't like it but it would be better than having us pay a piracy tax on the bill. Anyway aside from the Avatar I didn't watch any movie this year. And the ones I watched at home were my oldies. I mean there are no videos this year that are worth even downloading.

 

[Guest]

If I steal a package of Pringles then some poor guy may not get to eat Pringles if the store runs out. If I download a song no one else is missing out on that song. It can be easily copied over and over again. They are making a scarcity where one doesn't exist. That is why stealing Pringles is not like downloading songs or movies. I don't see how that concept is very difficult to understand.

 

[jurassic1024]

[citation][nom]CTPAHHIK[/nom]This will not be very popular with ISPs. I don't think they will be happy with loosing customers.[/citation]

As opposed to tighting customers?

 

[jurassic1024]

[citation][nom]wifiwolf[/nom]I don't like it but it would be better than having us pay a piracy tax on the bill. Anyway aside from the Avatar I didn't watch any movie this year. And the ones I watched at home were my oldies. I mean there are no videos this year that are worth even downloading.[/citation]

Says you. I'd rather pay some measly $10/mo fee, than to pay that for one piece of software legally.