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http/www.dba.org.au/newsletter/IB-FebMar05-full.asp#PRODUCT1

Australia, a country 1/14th the size of the US bought 400,000 COFDM DTV
receivers last year for a total now of 658,000. The equivalent of
9,212,000 in the US. This all in three years. The US has been at it for
seven years.

Take a look at the "hockey stick" graph of sales and imagine what this
year will see. I will predict 658,000 in 2005 alone.

The number and variety of receivers being offered is impressive to and
they have a $77 SD receiver now though receiver prices are higher than
hoped for. The market is just so small at a total of 20 million.

Bob Miller

 

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Bob Miller wrote:
> http/www.dba.org.au/newsletter/IB-FebMar05-full.asp#PRODUCT1
>
> Australia, a country 1/14th the size of the US bought 400,000 COFDM DTV
> receivers last year for a total now of 658,000. The equivalent of
> 9,212,000 in the US. This all in three years. The US has been at it for
> seven years.

What percentage of them are HD receivers?

> Take a look at the "hockey stick" graph of sales and imagine what this
> year will see. I will predict 658,000 in 2005 alone.

That will be yet another prediction of yours that will be wrong. You
haven't gotten one right yet and that isn't likely to change.

> The number and variety of receivers being offered is impressive to and
> they have a $77 SD receiver now though receiver prices are higher than
> hoped for. The market is just so small at a total of 20 million.
>

As has been pointed out to you many times, this is an HDTV newsgroup.
Please take your off topic posts elsewhere.

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"Matthew L. Martin" <nothere@notnow.never> wrote in message
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> Bob Miller wrote:
> > http/www.dba.org.au/newsletter/IB-FebMar05-full.asp#PRODUCT1
> >
> > Australia, a country 1/14th the size of the US bought 400,000 COFDM DTV
> > receivers last year for a total now of 658,000. The equivalent of
> > 9,212,000 in the US. This all in three years. The US has been at it for
> > seven years.
>
> What percentage of them are HD receivers?
>
> > Take a look at the "hockey stick" graph of sales and imagine what this
> > year will see. I will predict 658,000 in 2005 alone.
>
> That will be yet another prediction of yours that will be wrong. You
> haven't gotten one right yet and that isn't likely to change.
>
> > The number and variety of receivers being offered is impressive to and
> > they have a $77 SD receiver now though receiver prices are higher than
> > hoped for. The market is just so small at a total of 20 million.
> >
>
> As has been pointed out to you many times, this is an HDTV newsgroup.
> Please take your off topic posts elsewhere.
>
> --
> Matthew

I thought you were a pretty smart guy, Matthew. Seems like you keep biting
on the same bait from the same troll...LOL

When are you guys going to learn to just ignore Bob?

Leonard

 

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Leonard Caillouet wrote:
> "Matthew L. Martin" <nothere@notnow.never> wrote in message
> news:110mkdhcv309025@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Bob Miller wrote:

Snippage

>>As has been pointed out to you many times, this is an HDTV newsgroup.
>>Please take your off topic posts elsewhere.
>>
>
> When are you guys going to learn to just ignore Bob?
>

If he were a troll, he would have no vested interest in sowing FUD about
HDTV. Since he does have a vested interest in ruining OTA HDTV he needs
to be refuted.

Matthew


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"Matthew L. Martin" <nothere@notnow.never> wrote in message
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> > When are you guys going to learn to just ignore Bob?
> >
>
> If he were a troll, he would have no vested interest in sowing FUD about
> HDTV. Since he does have a vested interest in ruining OTA HDTV he needs
> to be refuted.
>
> Matthew

He can be refuted and marginalized by simply occasionally posting a short
statement describing his repeated attempts to support his position.
Constantly allowing him to engage you and responding point by point is
useless. Quite a few folks on this group seem to have lost perspective and
have allowed themselves to be lowered to Bob's level of discourse. You
would have more credibility if you didn't give him the respect of having to
refute every point.

Most of Bob's posts are the same refrain...COFDM is better. Regardless of
the merits of his arguments, it is largely irrelevant to HD in the US, where
he and most of those who respond to him are living. Why not just
occasionally point out what he does and leave it alone. His relevance is
only enhanced by beating the dead horse.

Leonard

 

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Leonard Caillouet (no@no.com) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> He can be refuted and marginalized by simply occasionally posting a short
> statement describing his repeated attempts to support his position.

This would work if Google didn't exist.

Anybody that does a search and comes across Bob's FUD will get the real
story in the same thread. Separate posts wouldn't do that.

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As usual, so what, and what's your point?


"Bob Miller" <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:AzHOd.4840$mG6.4363@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> http/www.dba.org.au/newsletter/IB-FebMar05-full.asp#PRODUCT1
>
> Australia, a country 1/14th the size of the US bought 400,000 COFDM DTV
> receivers last year for a total now of 658,000. The equivalent of
> 9,212,000 in the US. This all in three years. The US has been at it for
> seven years.
>
> Take a look at the "hockey stick" graph of sales and imagine what this
> year will see. I will predict 658,000 in 2005 alone.
>
> The number and variety of receivers being offered is impressive to and
> they have a $77 SD receiver now though receiver prices are higher than
> hoped for. The market is just so small at a total of 20 million.
>
> Bob Miller
>

 

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yeah and..
i live in perth west australia, and i have been told that in the first year
only 20000 set top boxes were sold nationwide, i have a pc card and watch
dvbt on my computer, sure these facts arnt included in the 20000, but who
cares, is it a competition?]

"Phil Ross" <paross@pacbell.net> wrote in message
newsGqPd.4305$aW6.2750@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
> As usual, so what, and what's your point?
>
>
> "Bob Miller" <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:AzHOd.4840$mG6.4363@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > http/www.dba.org.au/newsletter/IB-FebMar05-full.asp#PRODUCT1
> >
> > Australia, a country 1/14th the size of the US bought 400,000 COFDM DTV
> > receivers last year for a total now of 658,000. The equivalent of
> > 9,212,000 in the US. This all in three years. The US has been at it for
> > seven years.
> >
> > Take a look at the "hockey stick" graph of sales and imagine what this
> > year will see. I will predict 658,000 in 2005 alone.
> >
> > The number and variety of receivers being offered is impressive to and
> > they have a $77 SD receiver now though receiver prices are higher than
> > hoped for. The market is just so small at a total of 20 million.
> >
> > Bob Miller
> >
>
>