Progressive scan DVD player vs. Sonys built in DRC settings

[Guest]

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I use my Xbox with the component HD adapter for my DVD player. It is not
progressive scan. I have been wanting to buy a new progressive scan DVD
player so I could be watching the best picture possible. Today I read a
post saying that some TVs do a better job of displaying progressive scan
from a 480i player, than a real 480p player hooked up to the same TV. Am I
understanding this correctly?

To be honest, I have played around with the settings on my TV and can't
really tell a difference between any of the 3 modes (progressive,
interlaced, and cinemotion), probably because of the small 30" size. I have
often wondered if a progressive scan DVD player would show a difference.

I know I should get a real DVD player, and an upscaling player at that, but
do you think I am seeing a picture that is as good as it can be? (ignoring
upscaling players)

THANKS!
--Dan

 

[Guest]

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Dan:

I have a Sony 34HS510 and a rather low end Pioneer progressive scan DVD
hooked up with component connections. The PQ is definitely better when I set
the Pioneer to 480i and let the Sony do the de-interlacing.

David
"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I use my Xbox with the component HD adapter for my DVD player. It is not
> progressive scan. I have been wanting to buy a new progressive scan DVD
> player so I could be watching the best picture possible. Today I read a
> post saying that some TVs do a better job of displaying progressive scan
> from a 480i player, than a real 480p player hooked up to the same TV. Am
I
> understanding this correctly?
>
> To be honest, I have played around with the settings on my TV and can't
> really tell a difference between any of the 3 modes (progressive,
> interlaced, and cinemotion), probably because of the small 30" size. I
have
> often wondered if a progressive scan DVD player would show a difference.
>
> I know I should get a real DVD player, and an upscaling player at that,
but
> do you think I am seeing a picture that is as good as it can be? (ignoring
> upscaling players)
>
> THANKS!
> --Dan
>
>

 

[Guest]

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I have a Panasonic E80 DVD recorder/player and a Sony KDF-60XS955 HDTV.
This morning, I changed my DVD player's settings back to 16:9 480I (from
480p). That seemed to make for a worse picture. The 480p setting looks
better. But I did not screw around with the picture settings on the TV to
see if I could make the 480i picture better than the 480p. I have
experimented with the Sony DRC settings in the past, with NTSC SD pictures
from analog and digital cable, but have never seen that they make a lot of
difference -- some, maybe, but it's damn subtle.

mack
austin


"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I use my Xbox with the component HD adapter for my DVD player. It is not
> progressive scan. I have been wanting to buy a new progressive scan DVD
> player so I could be watching the best picture possible. Today I read a
> post saying that some TVs do a better job of displaying progressive scan
> from a 480i player, than a real 480p player hooked up to the same TV. Am
I
> understanding this correctly?
>
> To be honest, I have played around with the settings on my TV and can't
> really tell a difference between any of the 3 modes (progressive,
> interlaced, and cinemotion), probably because of the small 30" size. I
have
> often wondered if a progressive scan DVD player would show a difference.
>
> I know I should get a real DVD player, and an upscaling player at that,
but
> do you think I am seeing a picture that is as good as it can be? (ignoring
> upscaling players)
>
> THANKS!
> --Dan
>
>

 

[Guest]

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"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: I use my Xbox with the component HD adapter for my DVD player. It
is not
: progressive scan. I have been wanting to buy a new progressive scan
DVD
: player so I could be watching the best picture possible. Today I
read a
: post saying that some TVs do a better job of displaying progressive
scan
: from a 480i player, than a real 480p player hooked up to the same
TV. Am I
: understanding this correctly?
:
: To be honest, I have played around with the settings on my TV and
can't
: really tell a difference between any of the 3 modes (progressive,
: interlaced, and cinemotion), probably because of the small 30" size.
I have
: often wondered if a progressive scan DVD player would show a
difference.
:
: I know I should get a real DVD player, and an upscaling player at
that, but
: do you think I am seeing a picture that is as good as it can be?
(ignoring
: upscaling players)
:
: THANKS!
: --Dan
:
:
:
What types of inputs do you have on your TV? I'm guessing that you
don't have DVI or HDMI inputs. Do you have Component (YPbPr - Red,
Blue and Green jacks) input? Or do you only have Composite (yellow)
or S-video for your video input? Unless you have Component (or
better) you probably will never be able to tell the difference
between, an interlaced or a progressive scan DVD player.

 

[jt]

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dg wrote:
> I use my Xbox with the component HD adapter for my DVD player. It is
> not progressive scan. I have been wanting to buy a new progressive
> scan DVD player so I could be watching the best picture possible.
> Today I read a post saying that some TVs do a better job of
> displaying progressive scan from a 480i player, than a real 480p
> player hooked up to the same TV. Am I understanding this correctly?
>
> To be honest, I have played around with the settings on my TV and
> can't really tell a difference between any of the 3 modes
> (progressive, interlaced, and cinemotion), probably because of the
> small 30" size. I have often wondered if a progressive scan DVD
> player would show a difference.
>
> I know I should get a real DVD player, and an upscaling player at
> that, but do you think I am seeing a picture that is as good as it
> can be? (ignoring upscaling players)
>
> THANKS!
> --Dan

I recently purchased a 51" Hitachi RPTV and I actually think the 480i
upconverted to 1080i looks a little better than 480p to 1080i. This is still
thru component cables of course.

 

[Richard]

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DVD is 480i. Some players take the digital 480i data and convert it to other
standard scan rates, some 480p, some 720p and some 1080i. This does not add
data, it just represents a change in scan rates and scan modes.

Some digital TV's have excellent circuits that take the 480i analog or
digital data and convert it to 720p, 788p, 1080i or even 1080p. If the TV
has the better circuits and especially if you feed it the player's data in
digital form, you can expect excellent results from the DTV. In the case of
Sony LCD rear projector sets, feeding it a 480p or even a 720p feed from the
player does not get the job done. This set still need to convert it to a
non-standard 788p scan rate. Thus you might be a lot better off feeding it
with either a 480i analog or digital data stream to begin with. Same is true
if you set displays 1080p or if the DTV simply has superior conversion
circuits.

Richard.

 

[Guest]

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I've got a Panasonic E85 and a 16:9 hdtv. If I set the E85 to 16:9 480p
it's much worse than 16:9 480i and no matter what I do to the tv settings, I
can't get a decent picture thru the E85 but the 480p is the worst setting
for me. Now this is running an SD signal from my Dish 508 into the E85 with
S-Vid.

That same signal running with S-Vid direct to the tv gives an excellent
picture and nothing I've been able to do to the E85 will provide as good a
picture. Running an S-Vid out of the E85 to the tv does give a better
picture than if I run it through the component cable though but still not as
good.

Walt


"Mack McKinnon" <MckinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
message news:T42sd.71893$g21.64522@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>I have a Panasonic E80 DVD recorder/player and a Sony KDF-60XS955 HDTV.
> This morning, I changed my DVD player's settings back to 16:9 480I (from
> 480p). That seemed to make for a worse picture. The 480p setting looks
> better. But I did not screw around with the picture settings on the TV to
> see if I could make the 480i picture better than the 480p. I have
> experimented with the Sony DRC settings in the past, with NTSC SD pictures
> from analog and digital cable, but have never seen that they make a lot of
> difference -- some, maybe, but it's damn subtle.
>
> mack
> austin
>
>
> "dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:qC1sd.28172$zx1.13195@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>> I use my Xbox with the component HD adapter for my DVD player. It is not
>> progressive scan. I have been wanting to buy a new progressive scan DVD
>> player so I could be watching the best picture possible. Today I read a
>> post saying that some TVs do a better job of displaying progressive scan
>> from a 480i player, than a real 480p player hooked up to the same TV. Am
> I
>> understanding this correctly?
>>
>> To be honest, I have played around with the settings on my TV and can't
>> really tell a difference between any of the 3 modes (progressive,
>> interlaced, and cinemotion), probably because of the small 30" size. I
> have
>> often wondered if a progressive scan DVD player would show a difference.
>>
>> I know I should get a real DVD player, and an upscaling player at that,
> but
>> do you think I am seeing a picture that is as good as it can be?
>> (ignoring
>> upscaling players)
>>
>> THANKS!
>> --Dan
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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I have got all of the inputs, however I use component for Xbox because it
can display HD games and also plays DVDs (but only 480i dvd). I guess when
I set my TV to "Progressive" it effectively gives me 480p while not having
to invest in a new progressive scan DVD player.

THANKS!
--Dan

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