Rendering videos with Sony Vegas Pro 13 are in bad quality

XAshKetchumX

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I don't even know anymore. I looked for every video out there explaining the best rendering settings possible and still. I see this pixelation and loss in quality when I render it. I tried pushing the bit-rate up and that didn't do anything at all. I even tried putting it to 2-pass and that didn't even do anything.

Here are my rendering settings.
http://prntscr.com/4k4q4r

Could there be something interfering with the quality?
 

drapacioli

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You could try increasing the number of reference frames or ticking the box on the deblocking filter. As far as I know these settings shouldn't be producing blocky results though.

Just to make sure, you are doing a full render and not just a preview render, right?
 

XAshKetchumX

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I'm actually doing a full render. Even with increasing reference frames and with the deblocking filter on, I still get the same results. I tried WMV and hell, it just doesn't look as good. Sony AVC made it look even more horrible. I'm still confused how other youtubers were able to get stunning results with these settings while I'm just here about to go rip my head off.
 

drapacioli

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Well you could try bumping up the bitrate, but I'm afraid I'm a bit out of my league here. Hopefully someone who works with codecs and Sony Vegas Pro more can help you out.
 

kenrivers

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From what I have read the MainConcept AVC/AAC encoder can be problematic.
Things to try:
Use the Sony AVC instead.
Use an alternative to "Render using CUDA if available" such as "Render using CPU only"
A problem can also occur if you try rendering with CUDA and you do not have an NVidia CUDA card.
I've read that disabling "Smart Resample" or "Disable Resample" can help as well.

http://eposvox.com/2014/04/never-forget-disable-resample-sony-vegas-tutorial/

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1940403/sony-vegas-pro-rendering-settings.html
 

XAshKetchumX

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I gotta give to ya, the Sony AVC seems to render better, but I'm still getting that horrible quality. The graininess in the video seems to be gone but with still some pixelation especially with movement. Also the links you posted are the videos I actually checked out and they didn't do anything whatsoever. I already did disabled resampling and still get the same results. I'm out of ideas. I don't know what's causing this as I never had this problem with my older computer. Either rendering with CPU or CUDA will not make a difference in quality and also, the 870m is one of the supported CUDA chips if you didn't know.
 

XAshKetchumX

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I recorded using Dxtory and recorded by using their codec so it would be AVI.

Also this problem has been happening to me for years. I just kinda didn't care about the quality but since now I'm diving into making more videos, I feel like people would love my videos if they weren't such in a bad quality. Even if I render any videos, it would result in the same way. What even sucks more is how Youtube compresses my video even further and make it look REALLY horrid.
 

kenrivers

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Have you experimented with Lagarith or Cinepak? I have never used Dxtory before so I'm just guessing here. Hopefully someone who has or does will comment.

http://ericolon.wordpress.com/2013/03/10/choosing-your-dxtory-codecan-all-in-one-guide/

http://oldmanclub.org/dxtory/

A YouTube search for "best Dxtory settings" or "best codec to use with Dxtory" may yield some useful information.
 

XAshKetchumX

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Ok I used this Lagarith Lossess Codec on my Dxtory, it seems to do somewhat well after rendering but it kinda loss a little bit of that quality but that's fine.

My biggest concern is how when I upload my videos to Youtube and that's when you'll see the "most" of what I was saying earlier.
 

kenrivers

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What specifically is the problem with the video that you provided a link to? I didn't watch the whole thing but I didn't see any pixilation. Am I wrong to does it look a little out of focus in some places? As far as quality goes it's hard to tell without having the original to compare it to.
 

XAshKetchumX

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Here's the link to the original https://www.dropbox.com/s/btof8cf9xzs4ken/Battlefield%203%20-%20Funny%20Moments%20-%20Knifing%20and%20Derping.mp4?dl=0

When I uploaded this to Youtube, it looks like it lost the quality a ton because watching it in fullscreen is somewhat bearable. I told this to serveral of my friends. Some say it looks fine and the others seem to see the same results.
 

kenrivers

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I am downloading the original version per your Dropbox link and I will view both (YouTube and original full screen) to see if I can tell a difference. I'll let you know if I see anything. What size screen are you viewing this on at full screen?
 

XAshKetchumX

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My recorded video, rendered video, and my monitor natively at 1920x1080.
 

kenrivers

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Thank you for the reply. I will view them this evening on my desktop computer which will enable me to view them both at 1920x1080. I don't have a laptop with that high a resolution.
 
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