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My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
could be wrong?

Thanks
John
 
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:21:08 -0700, falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote:

>My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
>an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
>playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
>wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
>another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
>minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
>could be wrong?
>
>Thanks
>John

Could be a bad hard disk as mike said. Sometimes errors seem to fix
themselves, but are still present and cause trouble later.

The only time I got such frequent reboots was when I tried to run
DVArchive and WiRNS on the same computer.

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created and still runs this old universe is so
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believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
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Sounds like a bad hard disk to me.

falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote:
> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
> could be wrong?
>
> Thanks
> John
 
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Replays have one component that wears out (The hard drive) and that is
my guess number one. It is possible that something else is causing it
but the HD would be guess #1.

Oh yes, bad hard drive will cause this (As will a few other bad parts)

There is also a module in the power supply line that can cause this,
turns out this module can be safely removed and bypassed. But alas
since my replays do not have it (And I don't know if yours does) I do
not know what it is (But if memory serves yours does not have it either)

falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote:
> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
> could be wrong?
>
> Thanks
> John

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John in Detroit wrote:
> Replays have one component that wears out (The hard drive) and that is
> my guess number one. It is possible that something else is causing it
> but the HD would be guess #1.
>
> Oh yes, bad hard drive will cause this (As will a few other bad parts)
>
> There is also a module in the power supply line that can cause this,
> turns out this module can be safely removed and bypassed. But alas
> since my replays do not have it (And I don't know if yours does) I do
> not know what it is (But if memory serves yours does not have it either)
>
> falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
>> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
>> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
>> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
>> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
>> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
>> could be wrong?
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>
>
Only 2K and 3K Replays have the power interrupt module.
 
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:57:54 GMT, John in Detroit
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>Replays have one component that wears out (The hard drive) and that is
>my guess number one. It is possible that something else is causing it
>but the HD would be guess #1.
>
>Oh yes, bad hard drive will cause this (As will a few other bad parts)
>
>There is also a module in the power supply line that can cause this,
>turns out this module can be safely removed and bypassed. But alas
>since my replays do not have it (And I don't know if yours does) I do
>not know what it is (But if memory serves yours does not have it either)
>

I thought that (power interruptor module) was just found in OLDER
Replays. None of my 5xxx units have one.

>falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote:
>> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
>> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
>> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
>> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
>> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
>> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
>> could be wrong?
>>
>> Thanks
>> John

--
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has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
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> The only time I got such frequent reboots was when I tried to run
> DVArchive and WiRNS on the same computer.
>

Yep, had the same thing happen to me. Of course, by the time I realized it
was happening, I'd screwed up half a night of recording.
 
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:43:28 -0400, "pjs" <pendejo@_pjsdesigns.com>
wrote:

>"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
>news:u6er5156euqtjisi8689jm97bgfllkapnj@4ax.com...
>
>> The only time I got such frequent reboots was when I tried to run
>> DVArchive and WiRNS on the same computer.
>>
>
>Yep, had the same thing happen to me. Of course, by the time I realized it
>was happening, I'd screwed up half a night of recording.
>

I got WiRNS to work, just on a different computer. My Replays still
have "showguard" (records an extra 5 min. when it can to help avoid
the loss of the end of a show) enabled.

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has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
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falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote in news:d3ar51pqj0piucs0d0mkul8iolilvemt3t@
4ax.com:

> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
> could be wrong?
>
> Thanks
> John

One of my 4504's exhibit this behavior, or have.
Of course I know for a fact the hard drive should be suspect... the
whole unit took a 4 foot fall to the [carpeted thankfully] floor.

If I toggle the system to "bypass" when it finishes booting and begins
to buffer live input I can keep it running. However when this condition
happens, it will buffer live tv for a bit then stutter, then freeze,
then reboot.

The last it did this was about 10 minutes prior to LOST beginning.
Obviously I was upset and had to deal with misbehaving technology and an
upset spouse.

That was the semi-final straw. The next day I downloaded any shows I
cared about and did a factory reset. To be sure the image partition
would be different I adjusted the photo partition to a new size as part
of the setup.

A side benefit was I re-entered all of my themes and show channels from
scratch -- this was a good thing after a few years of use.

The original drive was only a 40GB and the stutter problem always
appeared when the drive was fairly full and the buffer would hit a
certain spot; so far the drive is still pretty empty and no problems.
If it fills again and acts up I will upgrade it's drive, my other 4504
has a 250GB drive in it.

So your choices are:

1) image a new drive and upgrade to a clean system
2) image a new drive and optionally copy over your shows
3) copy over the system and shows partitions to a new drive
or
4) reset to factory defaults
5) reimage original drive (which will reset to factory defaults
 
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:33:30 GMT, Steph
<CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote:

>falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote in news:d3ar51pqj0piucs0d0mkul8iolilvemt3t@
>4ax.com:
>
>> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
>> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
>> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
>> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
>> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
>> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
>> could be wrong?
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>
>One of my 4504's exhibit this behavior, or have.
>Of course I know for a fact the hard drive should be suspect... the
>whole unit took a 4 foot fall to the [carpeted thankfully] floor.
>
>If I toggle the system to "bypass" when it finishes booting and begins
>to buffer live input I can keep it running. However when this condition
>happens, it will buffer live tv for a bit then stutter, then freeze,
>then reboot.
>
>The last it did this was about 10 minutes prior to LOST beginning.
>Obviously I was upset and had to deal with misbehaving technology and an
>upset spouse.
>
>That was the semi-final straw. The next day I downloaded any shows I
>cared about and did a factory reset. To be sure the image partition
>would be different I adjusted the photo partition to a new size as part
>of the setup.
>
>A side benefit was I re-entered all of my themes and show channels from
>scratch -- this was a good thing after a few years of use.
>
>The original drive was only a 40GB and the stutter problem always
>appeared when the drive was fairly full and the buffer would hit a
>certain spot; so far the drive is still pretty empty and no problems.
>If it fills again and acts up I will upgrade it's drive, my other 4504
>has a 250GB drive in it.
>
>So your choices are:
>
>1) image a new drive and upgrade to a clean system
>2) image a new drive and optionally copy over your shows
>3) copy over the system and shows partitions to a new drive
>or
>4) reset to factory defaults
>5) reimage original drive (which will reset to factory defaults
>

You may not need a new drive. Try #5 above before trying #1. I just
fixed a Replay (thay was losing shows and corrupting the Replay guide)
that way.


--
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has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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Thanks Tony
I know my unit does not have it but was not sure of his

Tony D wrote:

> Only 2K and 3K Replays have the power interrupt module.

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Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in
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> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:33:30 GMT, Steph
><CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote:
>
>>falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote in
news:d3ar51pqj0piucs0d0mkul8iolilvemt3t@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
>>> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or
when
>>> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
>>> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
>>> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for
a
>>> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
>>> could be wrong?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> John
>>
>>One of my 4504's exhibit this behavior, or have.
>>Of course I know for a fact the hard drive should be suspect... the
>>whole unit took a 4 foot fall to the [carpeted thankfully] floor.
>>
>>If I toggle the system to "bypass" when it finishes booting and begins
>>to buffer live input I can keep it running. However when this
condition
>>happens, it will buffer live tv for a bit then stutter, then freeze,
>>then reboot.
>>
>>The last it did this was about 10 minutes prior to LOST beginning.
>>Obviously I was upset and had to deal with misbehaving technology and
an
>>upset spouse.
>>
>>That was the semi-final straw. The next day I downloaded any shows I
>>cared about and did a factory reset. To be sure the image partition
>>would be different I adjusted the photo partition to a new size as
part
>>of the setup.
>>
>>A side benefit was I re-entered all of my themes and show channels
from
>>scratch -- this was a good thing after a few years of use.
>>
>>The original drive was only a 40GB and the stutter problem always
>>appeared when the drive was fairly full and the buffer would hit a
>>certain spot; so far the drive is still pretty empty and no problems.
>>If it fills again and acts up I will upgrade it's drive, my other
4504
>>has a 250GB drive in it.
>>
>>So your choices are:
>>
>>1) image a new drive and upgrade to a clean system
>>2) image a new drive and optionally copy over your shows
>>3) copy over the system and shows partitions to a new drive
>>or
>>4) reset to factory defaults
>>5) reimage original drive (which will reset to factory defaults
>>
>
> You may not need a new drive. Try #5 above before trying #1. I just
> fixed a Replay (thay was losing shows and corrupting the Replay guide)
> that way.
>
>


That is true, however I wrote them out in that fashion and left a part
out; I would upgrade to a newer/larger drive if doing options 1-3.

Options 4/5 are for those that don't wish to spend any money [yet].
 
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:59:26 GMT, Steph
<CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in
>news:b0kt511ndncluj44o0vm7uc1t0q7apmtf1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:33:30 GMT, Steph
>><CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote:
>>
>>>falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote in
>news:d3ar51pqj0piucs0d0mkul8iolilvemt3t@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
>>>> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or
>when
>>>> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
>>>> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
>>>> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for
>a
>>>> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
>>>> could be wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> John
>>>
>>>One of my 4504's exhibit this behavior, or have.
>>>Of course I know for a fact the hard drive should be suspect... the
>>>whole unit took a 4 foot fall to the [carpeted thankfully] floor.
>>>
>>>If I toggle the system to "bypass" when it finishes booting and begins
>>>to buffer live input I can keep it running. However when this
>condition
>>>happens, it will buffer live tv for a bit then stutter, then freeze,
>>>then reboot.
>>>
>>>The last it did this was about 10 minutes prior to LOST beginning.
>>>Obviously I was upset and had to deal with misbehaving technology and
>an
>>>upset spouse.
>>>
>>>That was the semi-final straw. The next day I downloaded any shows I
>>>cared about and did a factory reset. To be sure the image partition
>>>would be different I adjusted the photo partition to a new size as
>part
>>>of the setup.
>>>
>>>A side benefit was I re-entered all of my themes and show channels
>from
>>>scratch -- this was a good thing after a few years of use.
>>>
>>>The original drive was only a 40GB and the stutter problem always
>>>appeared when the drive was fairly full and the buffer would hit a
>>>certain spot; so far the drive is still pretty empty and no problems.
>>>If it fills again and acts up I will upgrade it's drive, my other
>4504
>>>has a 250GB drive in it.
>>>
>>>So your choices are:
>>>
>>>1) image a new drive and upgrade to a clean system
>>>2) image a new drive and optionally copy over your shows
>>>3) copy over the system and shows partitions to a new drive
>>>or
>>>4) reset to factory defaults
>>>5) reimage original drive (which will reset to factory defaults
>>>
>>
>> You may not need a new drive. Try #5 above before trying #1. I just
>> fixed a Replay (thay was losing shows and corrupting the Replay guide)
>> that way.
>>
>>
>
>
>That is true, however I wrote them out in that fashion and left a part
>out; I would upgrade to a newer/larger drive if doing options 1-3.
>

Upgrade to a larger drive if you'd use the space.

I was going to upgrade my Replay (I already had a 250GB drive, the
largest at the time), but never did because of DVArchive. That 250GB
drive is now in my computer.

>Options 4/5 are for those that don't wish to spend any money [yet].

I did enable the whole 80GB on my 5060.

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has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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It appears you are correct. Eventually the HD starting making very
loud "head seeking" noises.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:07:21 -0400, mike <ki4fyy@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Sounds like a bad hard disk to me.
>
>falsedawn2@hotmail.com wrote:
>> My ReplayTV 5160 recently began rebooting spontaneously; it won't go
>> an hour without doing so. It happens when off, when recording or when
>> playing back. Sometimes upon booting it will freeze at the "Please
>> wait..." screen; once it healed itself after several hours, and
>> another time I was able to boot it successfully by pulling power for a
>> minute, something that many times doesn't work. Any ideas on what
>> could be wrong?
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
 
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