Ripping digital audio off laserdiscs

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Is it possible to rip a digital copy of the audio off a laseridsc onto
your PC? If so, what hardware/software do you need?
 
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:34:13 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:

>Is it possible to rip a digital copy of the audio off a laseridsc onto
>your PC? If so, what hardware/software do you need?

Yes. You'll need a decent sound card -- for AC-3 you need one that
doesn't resample on capture. For software, try Cool Edit Pro (now
Adobe Audition?). Or maybe Audacity (freeware)?
 

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In article <o8etl09ql6i0f70o6jvhpnk80akpkdvo01@4ax.com>,
karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me says...
> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:34:13 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >Is it possible to rip a digital copy of the audio off a laseridsc onto
> >your PC? If so, what hardware/software do you need?
>
> Yes. You'll need a decent sound card -- for AC-3 you need one that
> doesn't resample on capture. For software, try Cool Edit Pro (now
> Adobe Audition?). Or maybe Audacity (freeware)?

Well, I wasn't thinking AC-3, just "digital sound" (2 channel PCM I
assume, stereo or Dolby Surround).

So it looks like I can connect the optical digital out from the
laserdisc player to the spdif on my PC, and select SPDIF as the
recording source - but I don't have a decent sound card, just integrated
on the motherboard (nForce 2 chipset) - so it probably will resample.
 
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> So it looks like I can connect the optical digital out from the
> laserdisc player to the spdif on my PC, and select SPDIF as the
> recording source - but I don't have a decent sound card, just integrated
> on the motherboard (nForce 2 chipset) - so it probably will resample.

I'd always meant to get around to doing this but never have. I bought a USB
ONE sound card for this and still have it sitting in it's box. My laserdisc
player does'nt have the appropriate outputs. Can anyone suggest a good
laserdisc player for this without spending over $400.00? Preferably one
that also offers DTS?
 
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:21:27 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:

>In article <o8etl09ql6i0f70o6jvhpnk80akpkdvo01@4ax.com>,
>karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me says...
>> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:34:13 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Is it possible to rip a digital copy of the audio off a laseridsc onto
>> >your PC? If so, what hardware/software do you need?
>>
>> Yes. You'll need a decent sound card -- for AC-3 you need one that
>> doesn't resample on capture. For software, try Cool Edit Pro (now
>> Adobe Audition?). Or maybe Audacity (freeware)?
>
>Well, I wasn't thinking AC-3, just "digital sound" (2 channel PCM I
>assume, stereo or Dolby Surround).
>
>So it looks like I can connect the optical digital out from the
>laserdisc player to the spdif on my PC, and select SPDIF as the
>recording source - but I don't have a decent sound card, just integrated
>on the motherboard (nForce 2 chipset) - so it probably will resample.

If you're not doing AC-3, I don't think you'll notice if it resamples
or not. If AC-3 is resampled, it's ruined entirely. The PCM will be
fine, including Dolby Surround. I'd try the mobo's integrated source
first; it should do a very nice job.
 
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"Bernie Woodham" <birnhamwood@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:vbH7d.401743$8_6.156223@attbi_s04...
>
> > So it looks like I can connect the optical digital out from the
> > laserdisc player to the spdif on my PC, and select SPDIF as the
> > recording source - but I don't have a decent sound card, just integrated
> > on the motherboard (nForce 2 chipset) - so it probably will resample.
>
> I'd always meant to get around to doing this but never have. I bought a
USB
> ONE sound card for this and still have it sitting in it's box. My
laserdisc
> player does'nt have the appropriate outputs. Can anyone suggest a good
> laserdisc player for this without spending over $400.00? Preferably one
> that also offers DTS?
>
>

Doesnt ANY LD player with a digital output allow for DTS?
 
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:40:08 GMT, "Biz" <biznospam@notatt.net> wrote:

>
>"Bernie Woodham" <birnhamwood@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>news:vbH7d.401743$8_6.156223@attbi_s04...
>>
>> > So it looks like I can connect the optical digital out from the
>> > laserdisc player to the spdif on my PC, and select SPDIF as the
>> > recording source - but I don't have a decent sound card, just integrated
>> > on the motherboard (nForce 2 chipset) - so it probably will resample.
>>
>> I'd always meant to get around to doing this but never have. I bought a
>USB
>> ONE sound card for this and still have it sitting in it's box. My
>laserdisc
>> player does'nt have the appropriate outputs. Can anyone suggest a good
>> laserdisc player for this without spending over $400.00? Preferably one
>> that also offers DTS?
>>
>>
>
>Doesnt ANY LD player with a digital output allow for DTS?
>
Yes.
 
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:13 GMT, Karyudo
<karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:21:27 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <o8etl09ql6i0f70o6jvhpnk80akpkdvo01@4ax.com>,
>>karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me says...
>>> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:34:13 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Is it possible to rip a digital copy of the audio off a laseridsc onto
>>> >your PC? If so, what hardware/software do you need?
>>>
>>> Yes. You'll need a decent sound card -- for AC-3 you need one that
>>> doesn't resample on capture. For software, try Cool Edit Pro (now
>>> Adobe Audition?). Or maybe Audacity (freeware)?
>>
>>Well, I wasn't thinking AC-3, just "digital sound" (2 channel PCM I
>>assume, stereo or Dolby Surround).
>>
>>So it looks like I can connect the optical digital out from the
>>laserdisc player to the spdif on my PC, and select SPDIF as the
>>recording source - but I don't have a decent sound card, just integrated
>>on the motherboard (nForce 2 chipset) - so it probably will resample.
>
>If you're not doing AC-3, I don't think you'll notice if it resamples
>or not. If AC-3 is resampled, it's ruined entirely. The PCM will be
>fine, including Dolby Surround. I'd try the mobo's integrated source
>first; it should do a very nice job.

He wants to get the PCM 44.1 sound directly into the computer as
PCM44.1, bypassing the artifacts introduced by cheaper sound cards and
not having to worry about volume levels or noise introduced by the
cabling and analog electronics.

I don't know of a direct way to do this but I have tapped off the
digital sound stream in a D703 just at the input of the demodulator
(capacitors soldered to the outputs of the buffers) and taken that to
a .dat machine's raw input, then transferred that stream to the
computer, then laying the audio under the video in Premiere. The
actual lenght was a bit different so the thing had to be retimed in
Sound Forge, which probably added a bit of distortion. It's a messy
process and maybe not worth the effort.

... Steve ..
>
>
 
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:09:59 -0400, "Steve(JazzHunter)"
<jazzhunterNotHere@internet.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:13 GMT, Karyudo
><karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:21:27 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <o8etl09ql6i0f70o6jvhpnk80akpkdvo01@4ax.com>,
>>>karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me says...
>>>> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:34:13 GMT, Miles <fake@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Is it possible to rip a digital copy of the audio off a laseridsc onto
>>>> >your PC? If so, what hardware/software do you need?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. You'll need a decent sound card -- for AC-3 you need one that
>>>> doesn't resample on capture. For software, try Cool Edit Pro (now
>>>> Adobe Audition?). Or maybe Audacity (freeware)?
>>>
>>>Well, I wasn't thinking AC-3, just "digital sound" (2 channel PCM I
>>>assume, stereo or Dolby Surround).
>>>
>>>So it looks like I can connect the optical digital out from the
>>>laserdisc player to the spdif on my PC, and select SPDIF as the
>>>recording source - but I don't have a decent sound card, just integrated
>>>on the motherboard (nForce 2 chipset) - so it probably will resample.
>>
>>If you're not doing AC-3, I don't think you'll notice if it resamples
>>or not. If AC-3 is resampled, it's ruined entirely. The PCM will be
>>fine, including Dolby Surround. I'd try the mobo's integrated source
>>first; it should do a very nice job.
>
>He wants to get the PCM 44.1 sound directly into the computer as
>PCM44.1, bypassing the artifacts introduced by cheaper sound cards and
>not having to worry about volume levels or noise introduced by the
>cabling and analog electronics.
>
>I don't know of a direct way to do this but I have tapped off the
>digital sound stream in a D703 just at the input of the demodulator
>(capacitors soldered to the outputs of the buffers) and taken that to
>a .dat machine's raw input, then transferred that stream to the
>computer, then laying the audio under the video in Premiere. The
>actual lenght was a bit different so the thing had to be retimed in
>Sound Forge, which probably added a bit of distortion. It's a messy
>process and maybe not worth the effort.

I know what he's trying to do, and it will be easiest to just plug the
S/PDIF into the mobo's daughter card and cap it that way. Chances are
good that it'll be bit-for-bit. If not, it'll still be all-digital,
just resampled. No biggie. Your way clearly works, but it's not
necessary. Although I did enjoy your Goldberg-esque description of the
process.