Samsung DLP Questions

[abe]

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Question #1
Does anybody know anything about when Samsung will be releasing it's Tantus
HLP-xx74 models? One rumor says next month another says 1Q of 2005. Anybody
hear anything about it?

Question #2
When will Samsung finally incorportate an ATSC tuner and CableCard in their
sets? As I understand Sony and Hitachi are including it in all their
upcoming LCD RPTV models. Although I don't know what the upcoming LCD's will
look like, I like the Samsung's picture a little better...but no atsc tuner
or cablecard is a mucho con....<sigh> decisions..decisions..

 

[Guest]

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abe wrote:
> Question #1
> Does anybody know anything about when Samsung will be releasing it's Tantus
> HLP-xx74 models? One rumor says next month another says 1Q of 2005. Anybody
> hear anything about it?
>
> Question #2
> When will Samsung finally incorportate an ATSC tuner and CableCard in their
> sets? As I understand Sony and Hitachi are including it in all their
> upcoming LCD RPTV models. Although I don't know what the upcoming LCD's will
> look like, I like the Samsung's picture a little better...but no atsc tuner
> or cablecard is a mucho con....<sigh> decisions..decisions..

The word on avsforum.com is the HLP-xx74 models - without the ATSC
tuner - will be released in October. The xx77 models, which are the same
as the xx74 but will have the ATSC tuner and cablecard slot, are not due
until January. And since January is after the peak Xmas/year end buying
season, it is likely a good bet that the xx77 dates will slip further.

Samsung is trailing most of the other TV makers in terms of bringing
their 36"+ TVs in compliance with the FCC rules requiring ATSC tuners
and cablecard slots.

 

[Guest]

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> The word on avsforum.com is the HLP-xx74 models - without the ATSC
> tuner - will be released in October. The xx77 models, which are the same
> as the xx74 but will have the ATSC tuner and cablecard slot, are not due
> until January. And since January is after the peak Xmas/year end buying
> season, it is likely a good bet that the xx77 dates will slip further.
>
> Samsung is trailing most of the other TV makers in terms of bringing
> their 36"+ TVs in compliance with the FCC rules requiring ATSC tuners
> and cablecard slots.

Ironically, Samsung was able to put ATSC tuners in their *low-end*
CRT HDTVs (26", 27", 30", 32") The 26" and 27" have a SRP of $699 USD,
and the 30"/32" are listed at $999 USD.

Since Samsung is a large corporation, maybe the 'left-hand' has
trouble talking with the 'right-hand'?

 

[Guest]

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Don't know whether to believe it or not, but at Circuit City, the
senior sales guy said that Samsung will offer a $300 ATSC/QAM hardware
retrofit this fall for existing DLP sets to come into compliance. If
it's $300 installed that seems like a fair price, if it's $300 +
installation, then you could be looking at $500.


On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:57:18 GMT, hello <hello@goodbye.com> wrote:

>> The word on avsforum.com is the HLP-xx74 models - without the ATSC
>> tuner - will be released in October. The xx77 models, which are the same
>> as the xx74 but will have the ATSC tuner and cablecard slot, are not due
>> until January. And since January is after the peak Xmas/year end buying
>> season, it is likely a good bet that the xx77 dates will slip further.
>>
>> Samsung is trailing most of the other TV makers in terms of bringing
>> their 36"+ TVs in compliance with the FCC rules requiring ATSC tuners
>> and cablecard slots.
>
>Ironically, Samsung was able to put ATSC tuners in their *low-end*
>CRT HDTVs (26", 27", 30", 32") The 26" and 27" have a SRP of $699 USD,
>and the 30"/32" are listed at $999 USD.
>
>Since Samsung is a large corporation, maybe the 'left-hand' has
>trouble talking with the 'right-hand'?

 

[Guest]

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ahhhem. BULLSHIT. cough. cough.


<drgrafix@hotpotato.com> wrote in message
news:35mekvkrbv5tql2ma4jlks207rl4jp5gqk@4ax.com...
> Don't know whether to believe it or not, but at Circuit City, the
> senior sales guy said that Samsung will offer a $300 ATSC/QAM hardware
> retrofit this fall for existing DLP sets to come into compliance. If
> it's $300 installed that seems like a fair price, if it's $300 +
> installation, then you could be looking at $500.
>
>
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:57:18 GMT, hello <hello@goodbye.com> wrote:
>
> >> The word on avsforum.com is the HLP-xx74 models - without the ATSC
> >> tuner - will be released in October. The xx77 models, which are the
same
> >> as the xx74 but will have the ATSC tuner and cablecard slot, are not
due
> >> until January. And since January is after the peak Xmas/year end buying
> >> season, it is likely a good bet that the xx77 dates will slip further.
> >>
> >> Samsung is trailing most of the other TV makers in terms of bringing
> >> their 36"+ TVs in compliance with the FCC rules requiring ATSC tuners
> >> and cablecard slots.
> >
> >Ironically, Samsung was able to put ATSC tuners in their *low-end*
> >CRT HDTVs (26", 27", 30", 32") The 26" and 27" have a SRP of $699 USD,
> >and the 30"/32" are listed at $999 USD.
> >
> >Since Samsung is a large corporation, maybe the 'left-hand' has
> >trouble talking with the 'right-hand'?
>

 

[Richard]

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"Purple Knight" <yeahuwish@purple.com> wrote in message
news:tnvWc.40677$Kt5.33413@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> ahhhem. BULLSHIT. cough. cough.
>
>
> <drgrafix@hotpotato.com> wrote in message
> news:35mekvkrbv5tql2ma4jlks207rl4jp5gqk@4ax.com...
>> Don't know whether to believe it or not, but at Circuit City, the
>> senior sales guy said that Samsung will offer a $300 ATSC/QAM hardware
>> retrofit this fall for existing DLP sets to come into compliance. If
>> it's $300 installed that seems like a fair price, if it's $300 +
>> installation, then you could be looking at $500.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:57:18 GMT, hello <hello@goodbye.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> The word on avsforum.com is the HLP-xx74 models - without the ATSC
>> >> tuner - will be released in October. The xx77 models, which are the
> same
>> >> as the xx74 but will have the ATSC tuner and cablecard slot, are not
> due
>> >> until January. And since January is after the peak Xmas/year end
>> >> buying
>> >> season, it is likely a good bet that the xx77 dates will slip further.
>> >>
>> >> Samsung is trailing most of the other TV makers in terms of bringing
>> >> their 36"+ TVs in compliance with the FCC rules requiring ATSC tuners
>> >> and cablecard slots.
>> >
>> >Ironically, Samsung was able to put ATSC tuners in their *low-end*
>> >CRT HDTVs (26", 27", 30", 32") The 26" and 27" have a SRP of $699 USD,
>> >and the 30"/32" are listed at $999 USD.
>> >
>> >Since Samsung is a large corporation, maybe the 'left-hand' has
>> >trouble talking with the 'right-hand'?

No sets of any size are required to have an integrated DTV/digital Cable
tuner. Only sets over 36 in with a NTSC OTA/analog tuner are required to
include the extra hardware. Thus monitors are always going to be exempt.

Richard.

 

[Guest]

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I could've misinterpreted what he said... maybe it wasn't real
compliance but that the tuner will comply with FCC standards and it
will simply allow you to upgrade from a "monitor" to a TV receiver?


On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:16:32 GMT, "Richard" <rfeirste@nycap.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>"Purple Knight" <yeahuwish@purple.com> wrote in message
>news:tnvWc.40677$Kt5.33413@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> ahhhem. BULLSHIT. cough. cough.
>>
>>
>> <drgrafix@hotpotato.com> wrote in message
>> news:35mekvkrbv5tql2ma4jlks207rl4jp5gqk@4ax.com...
>>> Don't know whether to believe it or not, but at Circuit City, the
>>> senior sales guy said that Samsung will offer a $300 ATSC/QAM hardware
>>> retrofit this fall for existing DLP sets to come into compliance. If
>>> it's $300 installed that seems like a fair price, if it's $300 +
>>> installation, then you could be looking at $500.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:57:18 GMT, hello <hello@goodbye.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> The word on avsforum.com is the HLP-xx74 models - without the ATSC
>>> >> tuner - will be released in October. The xx77 models, which are the
>> same
>>> >> as the xx74 but will have the ATSC tuner and cablecard slot, are not
>> due
>>> >> until January. And since January is after the peak Xmas/year end
>>> >> buying
>>> >> season, it is likely a good bet that the xx77 dates will slip further.
>>> >>
>>> >> Samsung is trailing most of the other TV makers in terms of bringing
>>> >> their 36"+ TVs in compliance with the FCC rules requiring ATSC tuners
>>> >> and cablecard slots.
>>> >
>>> >Ironically, Samsung was able to put ATSC tuners in their *low-end*
>>> >CRT HDTVs (26", 27", 30", 32") The 26" and 27" have a SRP of $699 USD,
>>> >and the 30"/32" are listed at $999 USD.
>>> >
>>> >Since Samsung is a large corporation, maybe the 'left-hand' has
>>> >trouble talking with the 'right-hand'?
>
>No sets of any size are required to have an integrated DTV/digital Cable
>tuner. Only sets over 36 in with a NTSC OTA/analog tuner are required to
>include the extra hardware. Thus monitors are always going to be exempt.
>
>Richard.
>

 

[Richard]

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<drgrafix@hotpotato.com> wrote in message
news:880kkvs8k6dfl9ojgr3u8h642083h68dbb@4ax.com...
>I could've misinterpreted what he said... maybe it wasn't real
> compliance but that the tuner will comply with FCC standards and it
> will simply allow you to upgrade from a "monitor" to a TV receiver?
>
That was permitted on sets of that size built prior to July 2004. After that
date all sets of that size with tuners must be fully integrated.

Richard.