Sony Wins Injunction Against PS3 Jailbreak USBs

[wild9]

[citation][nom]soky602[/nom]unemployed? Get a job, losers can't be choosers. Full time student? Then keep your head in the books, your in the wrong website if your trying to save money.Its probably people like you who try's to save money by buying copied games that software companies make crappy games cause they don't have the cash to make a good one.[/citation]

Come on man. Being unemployed doesn't automatically make you a loser, especially in an economic climate whereby people are losing their jobs and homes left, right and center. People also come to THG to save money when they are looking for cost-effective computer hardware.

What I do is buy most games second-hand. I'd rather spend that kind of money on PC hardware, or just save it. I also resent the way certain titles seem to be price-fixed the moment they come off the production line.

 

[wild9]

[citation][nom]makaveli316[/nom]People here is talking how bad piracy is, but i bet my as* they have at least a software, mp3 or a movie which is coming from the piracy, so shut the **** up you hypocrites.I have tons of downloaded mp3's ( have just few worthy albums that i've bought), i download every movie that comes out and every single software on my pc is pirated, even my windows 7.You can call me whatever you want, i don't give a ****, at least i'm not a hypocrite as you.In this f'd up world the least normal people could do is getting their hands on everything that could be for free, so thank you piracy.Taxes are raising every day, prices of everything are raising too, do you think it's because of piracy?No, it's because of filthy rich people, who wants more and more, that's it, piracy has nothing to do with the fact that a game costs 60 bucks.[/citation]


If people are going to get on the moral high-ground about piracy them maybe they should also include things such as:

. The legality of the Income Tax system
. The legality and structure of the Federal Reserve system.
. The money spent pursuing overseas conflicts. Who our troops are actually dying for, and why.
. The war against our own people, on their own soil, whilst all and sundry are seemingly allowed to come and rape and pillage our last remaining resources. On an ever-increasing scale.

The list can go on and on. But no, let's switch on the news and put the blinkers on..piracy is bad, huge corporations are good. Pay the money, know your place and do not think for yourself.

 

[Guest]

This is a good thing. It keeps game developers and Sony on their toes. Offer us what we want or risk losing part of your business to the pirate market.
That's right, the modchip does hell of alot more than just pirate games. Homebrew is what ps3, the greatest platform ever developed needs and this jailbreak will finally enable it to happen.

 

[princeofdreams]

The arguments for and against piracy will rage ever onwards, but so many people talk shit it is untrue.

First coping a game is NOT theft, it is NOT a criminal offense no matter what the RIAA would try to brain washing you into believing. It is an infringement of a copyright and a CIVIL offense so calling people thieves shows your ignorance of the matter and points out you shouldn't be expressing an opinion.

While there can be no doubt piracy hurts companies, I cannot but help feel that they really are they architects of their own misery. Goods they sell are over priced and their business model just stinks of unadulterated greed. A normal business (an average business that the likes of you or me might run)seeks to double our investment for a transaction, this is the standard business model. So for example I buy oranges a 30 cents a pound, I then want to sell them at 60 cents a pound. This has been the standard for 1000's of years. But Software companies (and all the rest of the entertainment industry) want 10, 20 or even 30 times their investment back, they devise their material to bleed everyone dry with continual add on's that if you don't buy render your product obsolete.

The investment in MW2 was $100 million , but the return was over 1 billion, and that was just on initial sales never mind all the micro transactions they had scooped in afterwards, and lets face it is crap compared to previous products, disjointed storyline, short, limited MP and no control over its use. Basically you got stuffed shed loads more money for less of a product. Of course people are going to say hold on a minute, I am getting ripped off here. Think about it logically it would be like a store buying a console for $150 and then deciding to sell it to you $1500 or more, you wouldn't stand for it yet software companies think it is ok. If software companies (actually most of the blame lies with the publishers)sold their products at a reasonable mark up, if the quality was the level they promised, if the support was good then piracy would not really be an issue that it is today

 

[Guest]

I want an Aston Martin, but I can't afford one... does that mean it is ok to just go and steal one? Those who are whining that it's ok for them to pirate because they can't afford games have obviously somehow been instilled with the idea that they should be able to have and do whatever they want.

Grow up, get a clue.

 

[TemjinGold]

Forget arguing whether piracy is right or wrong. That won't change anyone's views on it. But to say piracy doesn't hurt the bottom line at all is insane.

Look at games like Starcraft. Know how many users played that even though you couldn't pirate it if you wanted to play online? Now, imagine if that game did not have that online check but was 100 times better of a game. I GUARANTEE you that less than 1/2 of the people who played it would've bought it. It's never only about how good the game is because there are loads of self-entitled folks out there who's stance is literally "no game is ever good enough to deserve my money."

People keep complaining about crap games coming out these days. "Make better games and I'll pay for it," they say. Do you people not realize that the cycle is "companies make fewer sales due to piracy -> companies are willing to invest less money for next game -> less money means lower quality staff, more bugs, etc. -> people complain that games these days suck." Those of you old enough to think 20 years ago will know that games used to be much better. Quality was much higher and practically none released with show-stopping bugs. Guess what else was true back then--piracy wasn't nearly as rampant.

I mean look no further than that guy's rant--he won't pay for any singleplayer game ever but will manage to scrape together money for the multiplayer ones. Why will he do that? Not because they are better games, but because he will steal the ones he can and find a way to pay for the ones he can't. It has nothing to do with game quality or price and his statement is proof that "pirates wouldn't have bought it anyway" is completely false.

 

[dethsite2]

you're lucky to pay $65 for a game try $80-150 retail for the same game, and sony wonders why people pirate games..

My personal opinion consoles should be universal gaming machines instead of this region locked piece of we get to play with..

 

[HappyBB]

It's all right. The ban is only effective until 8/31. Looking forward to the release of such device. However, the price is too steep!

 

[helldog3105]

Piracy has been a problem with gaming since the inception of the computer. Piracy has been the marked reason for the death of the gaming industry for the Atari ST series of computers and the Commodore Amiga computers. They didn't destroy the computers, but companies moved their products to more secure platforms. Games have always been of variable levels of quality. This is the reason for reviews. But as we have seen more and more these days, reviews are now biased, and paid for by the publisher of the game, leading to sales based off of a falsified view of the game. I'm certain this was the case back then as well, but it appeared less invasive than now. With games like Modern Warfare 2 getting 90% or better, with penalties like, short single player, lackluster multi-player, removal of features the previous game had, should be indicative of a sheep like mentality we are supposed to have. We are supposed to buy what they sell and like it, no matter what it is, or how poor the product is. When you can't even trust a review of the game, you are in a position of what do you do next? Pirate, or borrow from a friend, rent from a video store (if available), or from some place like Gamefly where you wait 3 months to get it? I understand piracy, and I understand the stance against it. I also recognize that for the most part, even dropping to price of software to 10 dollars isn't going to change the numbers. Why would people pay 10 bucks for something they can get for free? Piracy will not be going away any time soon. The fact that Sony locked down their system for so long is a testament to having a closed system, not to having an unbreakable anti-piracy measure. If homebrew minded people had access to the software earlier, this usb key would have happened earlier.

 

[cj_online]

[citation][nom]Restatement3dofTed[/nom]You're right, not everyone is filthy rich. But the fact that you can't afford to buy games doesn't entitle you to steal them. No matter how you might justify it to yourself, you're nothing more than a thief.[/citation]
In that sense, what the developers are doing is a crime too... ripping us off on lackluster games...

say whatever u want, but I sure as hell ain't paying that much for an sp game..

PS: We all love Homebrew as well

 

[cj_online]

[citation][nom]soky602[/nom]Your in the wrong website if your trying to save money..[/citation]

Besides the poor grammar,

this site "tom's hardware/guide", often has many discount deals/coupons etc.. and yet u say that It's the wrong website if u're a gamer/enthusiast trying to save money... hmm... that doesn't sound quite right..

 

[cj_online]

[citation][nom]spectrewind[/nom]An unemployed person has an income crisis to resolve. Gaming/entertainment and other time wasters that perpetuate unemployment do not a job-holder make.[/citation]

It's not possible for me to get a job at the moment.Like I said, I'm a full time student, so I really don't have the time to work. Yes I do play games, but only on weekends (occasionally).

 

[cj_online]

[citation][nom]chick0n[/nom]if you can't afford it, don't play it? there are more things to do out there.I can't afford a lot of things, should I just steal them all simply because "oh I can't afford it, so I just gonna "take" it without paying, I think thats fair"Agreed with soky602. People like cj_online simply fails.[/citation]

I certainly am not gonna pay $64.99 for 4-6 hrs of gameplay... that is pure BS marketing and fools like u are letting devs get away with shit like that..

I'll cough up the money for solid games with lots of replay value, but certainly not for solo games especially if they have little to no replay value.

 

[BulkZerker]

@temjingold

Devs are spending record ammounts of money, period, regaurdless of the worth of money (inflation adjustment) on games, and this won't change. What has changed, is the size of teams developing a game. Ccrap games have teams yhundreds strong so they can crank out a game in 3 years or less. And the next game they work on, 95% of the time, is a sequel. Now you tell me. If you have a creative mind, get hired. Then get used like a damn xerox, what are you going to do? That's right, slack off. The passion you may have had goes out the window and thusly your quality of work takes a nose dive.

I'm not going to pay for a shitty title and I sure as hell didn't pay for my cracked copy of kor-craft2. I played the campagain, which was pretty damn good, played online for a week on battlenet then promptly uninstalled. So you tell me, what does your arguement hold when i , a person with $120 to burn in his hand right now chooses to pirate a game, and is so dissapointed with it uninstalls it? I woulda bought it but the online experience sucked. So, no money for those guys that make wow, and like, other stuff, and wow.

 

[Guest]

I'm freaking ashamed to be a pc gamer. No other platform has so many defenders of piracy.

 

[bdonedge]

Downloading games isn't exactly stealing. It's copying. People need to stop tricking themselves into thinking they are "stealing" content, that's technically not what they are doing

 

[palladin9479]

I'm more concerned about the homebrew possibilities. I'd love to see someone implement the PSX emulator on a PS3, would be ironic.

And no copying a game is not illegal, we already have laws that cover this. Playing a game that you do not have a license to is illegal but only in a very minor way. Copying then mass producing those copies and selling them is very illegal. The RIAA / MPIA has brain washed too many people, "pirating" is not what is hurting sales its lack of quality combined with overpricing your market topped with difficult economic times. I haven't seen too many games I'd even be interested in buying over the past four years. Their all clones of each other or the previous *smash* game ... over ... and over ... and over again.

 

[ScoobyJooby-Jew]

I got laid off. I never received my last paycheck. I was not enthused about having worked 2 weeks and receiving no pay. I want compensation for my efforts. I buy games.

 

[xrodney]

[citation][nom]chick0n[/nom]Ban it. Good job.I am sick and tired of supporting "free leechers"yeah, you heard me.Back up my butt. I have almost 50 PS3 games never had one single scratch on it. Blu-Ray has a protective layer. if you still manage to scratch the disc, you're the problem so stop whinning.[/citation]
Mine PS3 managed to scratch 1 disc already and PC DVD rom shattered one disc and scratched few more also and I am extremely carefull about HW and disks. (and I am not really using discs much)
Also most of players are smaller children and as we all knows they don't tend to take care of discs as if its bottle of nitroglycerin instead of putting them on table all time.

 

[neiroatopelcc]

[citation][nom]2real[/nom]best anti piracy is to make games no one wants to even pirate like nintendo[/citation]

Best anti piracy way must be to make games that are so cheap people won't bother pirating them. like torchlight or many of those small popcap and similar games.