SOPA Doesn't Censor Internet, Says Rep. Lamar Smith

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Kaiser_25

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How about add some due process to the bill not sweeping authority to shutdonw/blacklist websites at a companies request with no recourse..
 

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SOPA/PIPA won't censor or limit the internet in the same way that the NDAA will not affect American citizens, which is: unless they want it to.
 

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"Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while some of America’s most profitable and productive industries are under attack."

that line says it all.

We know the companies that are on your pocket, you and everyone on those seats are not there to work for those companies, you are there to work for the USA, you are there to protect OUR rights, not the Billions of a few.
 

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Some of those in the US Govt who support the bill, HAVE ILLEGAL content on their own websites, twitter and facebook pages.

These bills also seek to put people in jail.
With the SOPA/PIPA setup the way they are now, twitter and facebook would be blacklisted.
 

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House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas). Ah the good old state you Americans dug George W Bush from, explains a lot really when both of these two have difficulty tying their own show laces.
 

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[citation][nom]dillyflump[/nom]House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas). Ah the good old state you Americans dug George W Bush from, explains a lot really when both of these two have difficulty tying their own show laces.[/citation]

LOL and some people can't spell shoe laces
 

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[citation][nom]drwho1[/nom]"Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while some of America’s most profitable and productive industries are under attack."that line says it all.We know the companies that are on your pocket, you and everyone on those seats are not there to work for those companies, you are there to work for the USA, you are there to protect OUR rights, not the Billions of a few.[/citation]

in theory...

But sadly the reality is they are there to protect money, primarily their own campaign money.
 

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Here's a little test. If, as the Senator claims,
Illegal piracy and counterfeiting cost the U.S. economy $100 billion and thousands of jobs every year.
, then set the law to expire in one year unless it gets renewed. It can only be renewed if there is a surge in the US economy equal to, say, 75% of the claimed loss from the industries claiming to lose that much - a performance based evaluation. If the economy doesn't recover the losses, the law dies and the Congressman leaves politics permanently. He can't even run for dog catcher. Seems fair.

Oh, but it's not that simple, he'll say. The economy depends on so many variables. Then maybe that $100 Billion figure is wrong - or inflated to produce FUD.

Plus, how many little riders are going to get added to the tail of this one? The reality today is that the bills and laws get so much added to them that Congressmen couldn't read all of it if that's all they did. That, on top of seriously flawed legislation, is a killer.
 

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it effectively creates an internet blacklist... how is that not censorship?
people will just use outside DNS and Proxies to get around the blocks anyways so whats the point? Will I get thrown in jail for using a proxy to access a blacklisted site?!
 

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Koga73: Your average user doesn't know how to do that... it means that websites WOULD go down.

I have a website... with this law, if someone posted a picture from a TV show on the site - my site could be taken down. Twitter would be illegal... because people constantly send copyrighted materials back and forth - innocently. Like the cartoon drawing of the BILL at the top of this article, could get you / twitter in trouble.

And yes, jail time is involved.

Look at what the Chinese think of SOPA... it is censorship.

By all means, go after the those who pirate movies and games, whatever.

But in truth, this is hollywood who paid for these bills - and they pirate themselves.
 

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"Contrary to critics’ claims, SOPA does not censor the Internet," he states. "It only targets activity that is already illegal, and only targets foreign websites that steal and sell America’s technology, inventions and products. And it is similar to laws that already govern websites based in the U.S."
Isn't it amazing how these idiots in DC can support a bill they're never sat down and read? I wonder how much he's being paid to support it.
 

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All the protesters against SOPA never said they like piracy. They are protesting overriding power for government to pull the plug on anything without the need for evidence and chance for defence of the accused. So whichever hillbilly redneck representative supporting such a bill clearly does not feel the rights of US citizens should be protected.
 

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I'm sure we should believe some Congressional lawyer over Google, Wikipedia, Yahoo, AOL and other internet providers. Obviously these congressmen know the truth of it.
 

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The bill does not (this is political double speak) the government, including this twit, will using the bill will.

I wish politicians were liable for their votes and words. We would be suing left and right (puns intended).
 

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$100 billion? Care to demonstrate that? Assuming $10/movie ticket (probably one of the more common and expensive things pirated are movies) that would be 10 billion customers per year. Now, I am not positive... but I dont think there are 10 billion downloads or 10 billion active moviegoers in any given year from the US.

Hell, even if you go the extreme expensive route and say they are all video games at $60/piece thats 1,666,666,666 downloads EACH year? That is the equivalent of every single man/woman/child alive in america downloading more than 5 games each year. This also assumes that every single man/woman/child was actually going to buy those specific 5 games that year. Beginning to see how outlandish this number is?

Yea, piracy is an issue, but SOPA was not the way to do it. The way to do it, is to to what they have been doing and try to enforce laws already in place. The laws in place are enough to stop things with due process.
 
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