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The Biggest DDoS War Ever is Slowing Down Internet
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twisted politiks
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Wow, what a bunch of immature people Cyberbunker is. They send out spam, nobody wants it, so naturally they will become blacklisted. I would urge Spamhaus to ride out the waves of DDoS attacks until, hopefully, Cyberbunker goes bankrupt from being unable to spam to anybody anymore 
i eat ddosses for lunch
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"We're innocent, we're innocent, we don't spam at all!!" *meanwhile* DDoS'ing the shit out of the internet...
How stupid do people think we are?
How stupid do people think we are?
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""These things are essentially like nuclear bombs," he added. "It’s so easy to cause so much damage."
what a fu***** inbred moron. how many people have ddos attacks murdered lately? how many mutated babies have been born? Matthew Prince, CEO of CloudFare you are a fu**ing !d!ot.
what a fu***** inbred moron. how many people have ddos attacks murdered lately? how many mutated babies have been born? Matthew Prince, CEO of CloudFare you are a fu**ing !d!ot.
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[citation][nom]thecolorblue[/nom]""These things are essentially like nuclear bombs," he added. "It’s so easy to cause so much damage."what a fu***** inbred moron. how many people have ddos attacks murdered lately? how many mutated babies have been born? Matthew Prince, CEO of CloudFare you are a fu**ing !d!ot.[/citation]
If it were actually impacting the global internet, it is possible it hurts people. Some hospitals use it to look up drug information, others rely on it completely for patient records and such. A lot of companies use VoIP for phone services too.
However, this is all a sham anyway. The only place where it possibly slowed down is for the dutch. Nobody else noticed slow internet except via coincidence. Some speculate that this is even a publicity stunt by CloudFlare.
If it were actually impacting the global internet, it is possible it hurts people. Some hospitals use it to look up drug information, others rely on it completely for patient records and such. A lot of companies use VoIP for phone services too.
However, this is all a sham anyway. The only place where it possibly slowed down is for the dutch. Nobody else noticed slow internet except via coincidence. Some speculate that this is even a publicity stunt by CloudFlare.
[citation][nom]thecolorblue[/nom]""These things are essentially like nuclear bombs," he added. "It’s so easy to cause so much damage."what a fu***** inbred moron. how many people have ddos attacks murdered lately? how many mutated babies have been born? Matthew Prince, CEO of CloudFare you are a fu**ing !d!ot.[/citation]
Shut down all online commerce for a few days due to Denial of Service attacks being applied indiscriminately.
Watch the economic damages roll. Amazon, Newegg, every single online retailer would essentially shut down.
And that's not including VoIP, including 9/11 services or other companies that use the internet extensively for data transfer.
Shut down all online commerce for a few days due to Denial of Service attacks being applied indiscriminately.
Watch the economic damages roll. Amazon, Newegg, every single online retailer would essentially shut down.
And that's not including VoIP, including 9/11 services or other companies that use the internet extensively for data transfer.
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These hackers don't have any concept of foresight. Do they honestly believe stuff like this is going to work? Do they honestly believe it will get them what they want?
You think SOPA and PIPA were bad? What do you think will happen when the next largest DDoS attack happens? This one at least partially brought down the internet of a whole geographical region. Do you honestly think that legislators are going to continue to let stuff like that slide?
Sooner or later a group of politicians without a long-viewed bone in their body is going to write a bill that will "put a stop" to this sort of thing. Do you honestly think the entire internet banding together to protest is going to dissuade them?
They'll write a bill that is the definition of overcompensation, and in the end we'll look back on SOPA and PIPA as if they were old and slightly deranged friends.
DDoS attacks like this really are like Nukes. Set one off and suffer through a slew of unintended consequences.
We dropped two on Japan to end a war quickly and ended up creating the single most drawn out and terrifying conflict in history to date. One man wants to test his new toys and the rest of the world is left to deal with a Cold War.
You think SOPA and PIPA were bad? What do you think will happen when the next largest DDoS attack happens? This one at least partially brought down the internet of a whole geographical region. Do you honestly think that legislators are going to continue to let stuff like that slide?
Sooner or later a group of politicians without a long-viewed bone in their body is going to write a bill that will "put a stop" to this sort of thing. Do you honestly think the entire internet banding together to protest is going to dissuade them?
They'll write a bill that is the definition of overcompensation, and in the end we'll look back on SOPA and PIPA as if they were old and slightly deranged friends.
DDoS attacks like this really are like Nukes. Set one off and suffer through a slew of unintended consequences.
We dropped two on Japan to end a war quickly and ended up creating the single most drawn out and terrifying conflict in history to date. One man wants to test his new toys and the rest of the world is left to deal with a Cold War.
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people that execute DDoS attacks and Spammers should both be put into jail. Laws need to be updated, so that something can be done to get ride these two internet blights.
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I just want someone who doesn't have an agenda (other than fighting spam) to fight spam. No pushing their personal perspectives, except for the one that everyone but criminally minded ass-hats agree is universally annoyingly disruptive, and that's spam.
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[citation][nom]hoofhearted[/nom]A cruise missile inside the Cyber Bunker would be a good start.[/citation]
Well they are in a bunker.
And that's just the thing. "Cyberwars" are still a joke. A couple assault teams could likely clear that entire building out and leave a mountain of corpses if they wanted. The only issue is that cybercrime still hasn't been elevated to the stature that it hurts lives and deserves capital punishments. Real war is still physical. A cyberattack like this could cause the internet to crash and some hospitals might not be able to google diagnoses? Who cares? A single modern nuke could wipe out entire cities, millions of lives, in an instant. Enjoy living in your sci fi fantasies where this garbage matters while we continuously ignore the fact Korea is waving a nuke at us and China's stirring up pretty much anything that touches it with their closet Imperialism. Someday you're going to wish your most dire consequence was that your package from Newegg was a day late.
Well they are in a bunker.
And that's just the thing. "Cyberwars" are still a joke. A couple assault teams could likely clear that entire building out and leave a mountain of corpses if they wanted. The only issue is that cybercrime still hasn't been elevated to the stature that it hurts lives and deserves capital punishments. Real war is still physical. A cyberattack like this could cause the internet to crash and some hospitals might not be able to google diagnoses? Who cares? A single modern nuke could wipe out entire cities, millions of lives, in an instant. Enjoy living in your sci fi fantasies where this garbage matters while we continuously ignore the fact Korea is waving a nuke at us and China's stirring up pretty much anything that touches it with their closet Imperialism. Someday you're going to wish your most dire consequence was that your package from Newegg was a day late.
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[citation][nom]kinggraves[/nom]Well they are in a bunker.And that's just the thing. "Cyberwars" are still a joke. A couple assault teams could likely clear that entire building out and leave a mountain of corpses if they wanted. The only issue is that cybercrime still hasn't been elevated to the stature that it hurts lives and deserves capital punishments. Real war is still physical. A cyberattack like this could cause the internet to crash and some hospitals might not be able to google diagnoses? Who cares? A single modern nuke could wipe out entire cities, millions of lives, in an instant. Enjoy living in your sci fi fantasies where this garbage matters while we continuously ignore the fact Korea is waving a nuke at us and China's stirring up pretty much anything that touches it with their closet Imperialism. Someday you're going to wish your most dire consequence was that your package from Newegg was a day late.[/citation]
You don't understand how integrated the internet is into our society. In a few years, all hospitals will be referencing patient records off site. A DDoS on a hospital could EASILY kill everyone in the Emergency Room. A DDoS against the servers with the patient information and an entire country would be unable to treat the wounded and ill.
Why? Because in a few short years, the pursuit of efficiency will have it so that no paper exists in a hospital. The infrastructure for handling patients will be geared toward instantly accessing a prospective patient's personal medical history, their allergies, what medications they're on, what treatments have been tried, all of it.
Likewise bringing down any other major infrastructure could destroy the way the world functions. Law enforcement would be unable to access records on the road and in the future may even be unable to effectively respond to 911 calls.
And let's not even talk about enemy nations stealing military secrets. They try, but they fail.
As much as people Hate America, what do you think would happen if China got a hold of the schematics for stealth technology? What do you think would happen if they got a hold of any other schematics for any other military technology? You think they'd be as benevolent with it as we have been?
If they didn't sell it immediately, they'd build it themselves. And China with a technological advantage is a scary thing.
The worst thing you can do is underestimate the amount of damage that can be done by this sort of "warfare". You hear about petulant man children and their crusades against various injustices but not the successful cyber-espionage conducted by China against american companies nor the daily breaching attempts made against every US government organization.
As the methodology becomes more advanced, the threat level rises. To underestimate it is to doom yourself.
You don't understand how integrated the internet is into our society. In a few years, all hospitals will be referencing patient records off site. A DDoS on a hospital could EASILY kill everyone in the Emergency Room. A DDoS against the servers with the patient information and an entire country would be unable to treat the wounded and ill.
Why? Because in a few short years, the pursuit of efficiency will have it so that no paper exists in a hospital. The infrastructure for handling patients will be geared toward instantly accessing a prospective patient's personal medical history, their allergies, what medications they're on, what treatments have been tried, all of it.
Likewise bringing down any other major infrastructure could destroy the way the world functions. Law enforcement would be unable to access records on the road and in the future may even be unable to effectively respond to 911 calls.
And let's not even talk about enemy nations stealing military secrets. They try, but they fail.
As much as people Hate America, what do you think would happen if China got a hold of the schematics for stealth technology? What do you think would happen if they got a hold of any other schematics for any other military technology? You think they'd be as benevolent with it as we have been?
If they didn't sell it immediately, they'd build it themselves. And China with a technological advantage is a scary thing.
The worst thing you can do is underestimate the amount of damage that can be done by this sort of "warfare". You hear about petulant man children and their crusades against various injustices but not the successful cyber-espionage conducted by China against american companies nor the daily breaching attempts made against every US government organization.
As the methodology becomes more advanced, the threat level rises. To underestimate it is to doom yourself.
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[citation][nom]JJ1217[/nom]I could not have said it better. There are so many more things to fight about.. and its about this...[/citation]
Spam is money, and money is a pretty reasonable thing to fight over.
Spam is money, and money is a pretty reasonable thing to fight over.
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