VIDEO: Every HTC One S Case Gets Blasted with 10,000 Volts

[IH8U]

@ anyone who didn't bother to read/watch the vid
The article is talking about sending 10,000 Volts through the casing, TO HARDEN IT (just the casing)! Not as a test of the phone's electronics. It basically turns the aluminum casing into a super hard ceramic.

 

[eddieroolz]

Yet when RIM posts a video of how they test their phones against physical shock and damage, the comments were overwhelming negativity of "so? who cares?".

Hypocrites.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]ap3x[/nom]1: I was talking about sending 10000 volts to consumer device. Serves no purpose other than to market a product specifically designed to withstand that.2: 10,000 volts of electricity is very different than surviving a fall3: There are other manufacturers besides Corning that provide high impact resilient glass. Corning Gorilla Glass just happens to have allot of marketing behind it and has one of the better products on the market.4: The Test only demonstrates how durable this particular product is. There is always a market for ultra durable products and they are using in certain environments. Does not mean that all devices will use it. 5: If you take a look at this device it is almost completely covered in this material. Would you pick this device over a Samsung Galaxy S2 or some of the other devices out there. Looks like crap compared to the other devices.[/citation]

id pick the most durable device possible... you know what tablets looked like before ipad... i would rather have one of those shapes than what we have now.

fact is people want gorilla glass for iphone because its proven to be very shock resistant, surviving many falls that the iphone jut shatters on

this treatment causes a chemical reaction, now i don't know if you watched the video, or if what they say went completely over your head, but the treatment make it more like crematic material, and strengthens it, making it more scratch, and fall resistant

go ahead and buy your pretty product, i want something that can survive being thrown at a wall, because thats what happened to the last phone i had (little brother had a rage fit because of something stupid) and because it was a clam shell, not a single thing was broke.

 

[captaincharisma]

[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]id pick the most durable device possible... you know what tablets looked like before ipad... i would rather have one of those shapes than what we have now. fact is people want gorilla glass for iphone because its proven to be very shock resistant, surviving many falls that the iphone jut shatters on this treatment causes a chemical reaction, now i don't know if you watched the video, or if what they say went completely over your head, but the treatment make it more like crematic material, and strengthens it, making it more scratch, and fall resistantgo ahead and buy your pretty product, i want something that can survive being thrown at a wall, because thats what happened to the last phone i had (little brother had a rage fit because of something stupid) and because it was a clam shell, not a single thing was broke.[/citation]



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[ap3x]

[citation][nom]ojas[/nom]Dude. It's not a test. It's a hardening process. This phone CAN NOT withstand a 10kV jolt. NO ONE SAID THAT. The process protects against scratches and stuff. NOT 10kV!!And that dude never said that the iphone sucks because it can't withstand such a shock. He simply meant that the iphone will never get the same anodizing treatment. That's it.[/citation]

No he said that iPhone would never do that. The iPhone is a product not a company. Apple would do it if it met their design requirements. So by someone saying the iPhone would not do that, that looks like a statement directed toward a device is currently on the market. My point as you reiterated was that NO consumer device would take a 10k volt shot and survive. It would be a pointless test to do that and would not prove anything.

I can read, I know that it was not a test in the article and is apart of the hardening process. This material was designed to respond the way they described after this 10k volt hit. When someone says the iPhone would not do that the obvious answer to that is ...No, it would not do that. It would be a waste of time because we all know what would happen. It would probably not work afterwards as would any device not designed to sustain that kind of hit. Does not matter if it is a test or hardening process. 10k volts is 10k volts.

You are saying what you think he meant to say and I am responding to what I thought he meant. We are arguing from two completely different points. If he said that Apple would not do this then it would be clear. But he did not say that. He said the iPhone would not do this.

At the end of the day, all this means is that this material is amazing and will have it's uses and the process to make the material is also amazing.

Why is this so complicated. I don't get it.

 

[house70]

[citation][nom]ap3x[/nom]Huh? Dude, I was not talking about phone drops or the normal stuff. I was talking about blasting a phone as the article suggested with 10,000 Volts of electricity. Get your head out of your ass for a minute. This test serves no purpose for any device out there. There is no such thing as a indestructible consumer device. Just like blending various devices serves no purpose.[/citation]
Obviously you didn't even:
1. read the article or
2. understood the article.
Just like your knee-jerk response to cmartin011, where you had a chip on your shoulder because someone dared to mention your favorite toy in his comment, this time your reply was as rude as it was totally out-of-touch with reality (the article's reality).
From that moment on, every post coming from you became like a train wreck in progress.
Anyone with half-decent trait would just shut up and go before everyone's doubts about your ignorance are no longer doubts. Now I think the cat is out of the bag on that issue, but there might still be some hope in future articles if you ever decide to return on this forum.
Good luck with your self-search; who knows, you might even learn something from this. I never lose faith in mankind.

 

[thegreatms]

[citation][nom]IH8U[/nom] It basically turns the aluminum casing into a super hard ceramic.[/citation]

That's a little bit of an exaggeration. Aluminum already has a thin oxide layer on it. Plasma electrolytic oxidation (PEO) (aka MAO) simply grows a thicker oxide layer on the surface. In basically a super anodizing. The main benefit is that the energy from the high voltage allows the amorphous Al2O3 to crystallize into corundum.

However it is only 10s-100s microns thick. The base Aluminum is still the same material, it is not any stronger than standard 6000 series AL. Only the outer skin is crystalline Al2O3, it is harder and stronger but more brittle.

It is very common in the engineering world to use surface treatments on components. While interesting, this is not a breakthrough from a technology standpoint. Based on this video, it looks like a PR push. Much like gorilla glass was a big PR push a few years ago.

 

[Haserath]

@ap3x- He meant the iPhone would never have a case like this, because Apple would not do that. Read between the lines. You're the one making this complicated.

And who knows, an iPhone might survive 10kV if the amps are low enough...

 

[thegreatms]

Also, I find it funny how PR people always refer to "aircraft-grade" aluminum. Like it is something special. 6061 aluminum is one of the cheapest alloys, and one of the easiest to machine. Al most any machined AL part will be 6061-T6 by default. Other alloys are used if you are bending sheet, or need high corrosion resistance, or high strength. FYI: precipitation hardening aluminum was used over 100 years ago.

If you want a cool alloy look into the Aluminum-Lithium alloys used on the shuttles main fuel tank. That's a real high tech alloy.


More metallurgy info: Most stainless steels are not that strong (relative to other steel alloys) So the reference to being 3x stronger that SST is particularly impressive. Just another PR statement.

 

[house70]

[citation][nom]Haserath[/nom]@ap3x- He meant the iPhone would never have a case like this, because Apple would not do that. Read between the lines. You're the one making this complicated.And who knows, an iPhone might survive 10kV if the amps are low enough...[/citation]
Actually, you would need something like a Faraday cage to have the electronics survive, something that this phone would provide (if "hit" on the back side), but not an iPhone, because that's glass on both sides.
But this is already getting too technical and beyond the point of the article.

 

[Uberragen21]

[citation][nom]ap3x[/nom]1: I was talking about sending 10000 volts to consumer device. Serves no purpose other than to market a product specifically designed to withstand that.2: 10,000 volts of electricity is very different than surviving a fall3: There are other manufacturers besides Corning that provide high impact resilient glass. Corning Gorilla Glass just happens to have allot of marketing behind it and has one of the better products on the market.4: The Test only demonstrates how durable this particular product is. There is always a market for ultra durable products and they are using in certain environments. Does not mean that all devices will use it. 5: If you take a look at this device it is almost completely covered in this material. Would you pick this device over a Samsung Galaxy S2 or some of the other devices out there. Looks like crap compared to the other devices.[/citation]
You obviously did not watch the video. In the video it explains the 10,000 volts was used in the manufacturing process to create the super hard ceramic crystalline structure from the aluminum. Thank you for your dumb ass comments, it really shows your intelligence.

 

[nebun]

[citation][nom]icemunk[/nom]good, I'm glad to see they went AMOLED, the HTC LCD displays weren't really that nice compared to the Galaxy S2 OLED.[/citation]
what'd the PPI?....that's where LCD (IPS) is king...Take a look at the PPI for the Rezhound...it blows any AMOLED out of the water....Also the colors on the Rezhound are awesome, not to mention more power efficcient....AMOLED has better angle viewing, but how many people actually look at their smarphone from an angle?....most of us will look at our smart-phones straight at them....so yes LCD(IPS) is much better when it comes to color and efficiency

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]ap3x[/nom]1: I was talking about sending 10000 volts to consumer device. Serves no purpose other than to market a product specifically designed to withstand that.2: 10,000 volts of electricity is very different than surviving a fall3: There are other manufacturers besides Corning that provide high impact resilient glass. Corning Gorilla Glass just happens to have allot of marketing behind it and has one of the better products on the market.4: The Test only demonstrates how durable this particular product is. There is always a market for ultra durable products and they are using in certain environments. Does not mean that all devices will use it. 5: If you take a look at this device it is almost completely covered in this material. Would you pick this device over a Samsung Galaxy S2 or some of the other devices out there. Looks like crap compared to the other devices.[/citation]
Did you even read the article? The 10,000 volts potential applied to the case doesn't have anything to do with testing, but with the actual manufacturing process.

 

[livebriand]

It's nice to see something with a matte casing nowdays.

 

[dalauder]

Ohhh ap3x...you brought me some good entertainment the last several minutes.

Anyhow, I'm always for more durable products. It'll be years before this trickles down to any devices I use.

Up until some research I did after this article, I'd been thinking Gorilla Glass was like Lexan. I didn't realize it's actually glass.

 

[rooni]

[citation][nom]icemunk[/nom]good, I'm glad to see they went AMOLED, the HTC LCD displays weren't really that nice comapred to the Galaxy S2 OLED.[/citation]

i had an HTC, it was really nice esp. the Sense UI but the screen was total GARBAGE, visibility was terrible and always looked washed out