What Laser Pressings Are Better Than The DVD's?

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What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD counterparts?

Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better than
the DVD version?

Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs

 

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Curtin/Dobbs wrote:
> What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD counterparts?
>
> Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better than
> the DVD version?
>
> Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs

Titanic DTS laserdisc is far better then then dvd, especially the
soundtrack.

T.B.

 

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unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
easier to decode the same dts on dvd
"TB" <partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Curtin/Dobbs wrote:
> > What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD
counterparts?
> >
> > Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better
than
> > the DVD version?
> >
> > Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs
>
> Titanic DTS laserdisc is far better then then dvd, especially the
> soundtrack.
>
> T.B.
>

 

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On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
<ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:

>unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
>easier to decode the same dts on dvd
The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
digital output.
John

 

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"ron felder" <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser.
much
> easier to decode the same dts on dvd

You're thinking of Dolby Digital. DTS on laserdisc works exactly the
same as it works on DVD. All you need is a player with a Toslink or coax
digital output and a receiver that is compatible with DTS.

It's Dolby Digital that you need an RF-demodulator for, and is generally
a much bigger pain in the ass to decode from an LD.

 

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Joshua Zyber wrote:
> "ron felder" <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ANGdnQvoUMQNIT_dRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>
>>unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser.
>
> much easier to decode the same dts on dvd
>
> You're thinking of Dolby Digital. DTS on laserdisc works exactly the
> same as it works on DVD. All you need is a player with a Toslink or coax
> digital output and a receiver that is compatible with DTS.
>
> It's Dolby Digital that you need an RF-demodulator for, and is generally
> a much bigger pain in the ass to decode from an LD.

Not to mention the dvd of Titanic doesn't have a DTS soundtrack.

T.B.

 

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"Curtin/Dobbs" <bodi@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD
counterparts?
>
> Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better
than
> the DVD version?
>
> Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs
>
>

Starstruck, the Australian musical is much better on LD than DVD. If there
were a DVD, perhaps my statement would bemore difficult to defend.

Dave

 

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The Japanese release of "The Last Emperor" on LD looks better than the DVD (in
my opinion).
-John
Please remove NOSPAM from my address to respond.

 

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JohnFBeas wrote:
> The Japanese release of "The Last Emperor" on LD looks better than the
> DVD (in my opinion).

Which DVD are you comparing it to? The US DVD of the "Director's Cut" is
garbage, but one disc of the Korean 2-disc DVD edition contains the
theatrical cut in a 16:9-enhanced transfer that, if not perfect, still
blows away my old US CAV LD. (I haven't seen the Japanese LD, so can't
compare it.)

And I don't believe the Korean DVD is censored, while it's my understanding
that the Japanese LD is:

"LDN reports that scenes of WW-II Japanese attrocities [sic] in China were
trimmed in the Japanese release of 'The Last Emperor'."

--Bob Niland, quoted at
<http/archive.cs.uu.nl/pub/MIDI/DOC/LaserDisc>

I don't know whether the Japanese LD is the "Director's Cut" or the
theatrical release: if the former, it may still be the best way to see the
DC. (And while I thought I'd heard a rumour that a better DVD of the DC was
on its way, I can't find any evidence to support it.)

doug

--
"If we listen quietly, we can hear them shooting from grave to grave..."
--XTC

 

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"John C." <john_c@amdmb.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
> <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
> >easier to decode the same dts on dvd
> The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
> just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
> digital output.
> John

My amp, a Harmon Kardon 330 specifically says not to use the digital input
with a laserdisk player.

 

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On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:19:46 -0500, "Mook23" <no_one@no_where.com>
wrote:

>
>"John C." <john_c@amdmb.com> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
>> <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
>> >easier to decode the same dts on dvd
>> The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
>> just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
>> digital output.
>> John
>
>My amp, a Harmon Kardon 330 specifically says not to use the digital input
>with a laserdisk player.
>
They must be referring to the AC3 RF output. That will not work with a
digital input. The optical or coax SPDIF output will work just fine,
same as a CD or DVD player output. (except will not pass the Dolby
Digital soundtrack).

 

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The standard edition or the Director's Cut?

Rgds,
Julien


JohnFBeas wrote:

> The Japanese release of "The Last Emperor" on LD looks better than the DVD (in
> my opinion).
> -John
> Please remove NOSPAM from my address to respond.

 

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>>Which DVD are you comparing it to? The US DVD of the "Director's Cut" is
garbage, but one disc of the Korean 2-disc DVD edition contains the
theatrical cut in a 16:9-enhanced transfer that, if not perfect, still
blows away my old US CAV LD. (I haven't seen the Japanese LD, so can't
compare it.)>>

I was comparing the American release DVD to the Japanese LD directors cut.
Thanks for the info about the Korean 2 disc transfer - I didn't know there was
a better version out there. And yes, the Japanese version was edited. Can I
ask you where you bought the Korean version from?
-John


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"Mook23" <no_one@no_where.com> wrote in message
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>
> "John C." <john_c@amdmb.com> wrote in message
> news:4pg5a0dmg6jrf0ajsfq73ghq8npn2iqb9h@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
> > <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser.
much
> > >easier to decode the same dts on dvd
> > The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
> > just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
> > digital output.
> > John
>
> My amp, a Harmon Kardon 330 specifically says not to use the digital input
> with a laserdisk player.
>
>
If your LD player has a digital output you can definitely use it for DTS
LDs. Unless you have had your player modified , you have to use an RF
modulator between the LD player and your HK's digital input to get DD from
your DD encoded LD's.

 

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"Douglas Bailey" <trystero@world.std.com> wrote in message
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> Which DVD are you comparing it to? The US DVD of the "Director's Cut"
is
> garbage, but one disc of the Korean 2-disc DVD edition contains the
> theatrical cut in a 16:9-enhanced transfer that, if not perfect, still
> blows away my old US CAV LD.

KoreanDVDs.com and DVDHeaven.com both list the Korean release of The
Last Emperor as the Director's Cut:

http/www.koreandvds.com/dvddetail.html?id=14254
http/www.dvdheaven.com/list_detail.php?g_cat02=1&idx=7869

Is the copy you have a different edition?

 

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"Curtin/Dobbs" <bodi@comcast.net> wrote:

> What are some laser disc titles that are better than
> their DVD counterparts?

FEARLESS. The LD is widescreen, the DVD is fullscreen. Ditto
for ALPHAVILLE -- Criterion's LD was widescreen, but they
released their DVD fullscreen at Godard's request.

> Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality
> is much better than the DVD version?

The Hong Kong import DVD of RAISE THE RED LANTERN is widescreen
while the Columbia domestic LD is fullscreen. However, the
LD's image has a sharper picture, and richer color.

-- jayembee

 

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The LD releases of The Shadow with Alec Baldwin are better than the DVD. The
only DVD version is Pan&Scan with DD sound. Both LDs had widescreen and a newer
version had DTS sound.

 

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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The LD releases of The Shadow with Alec Baldwin are better than the DVD.
The
> only DVD version is Pan&Scan with DD sound. Both LDs had widescreen

Same is true for the John Cleese WANDA follow-up FIERCE CREATURES.

And I'd add GODFATHER 3, presented with more detail and accurate colors than
the DVD.

Also, WAR OF THE WORLDS. And there are a lot more.

 

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Joshua Zyber wrote:
> Douglas Bailey wrote:
>> The two-disc edition I got (which I *believe* is a legitimate Korean
>> release).... [has] the theatrical cut (good, if not exactly
>> reference-quality, enhanced transfer) as Disc 2.
>
> Would you say that the theatrical cut is about comparable to the French
> disc reviewed here?
>
> http/207.136.67.23/film/dvdcompare/lastemperor.htm

Here are the first four images from that DVDBeaver page, but this time
comparing the French R2 PAL disc and my Korean R0 NTSC disc:

French: <http/207.136.67.23/film/dvdcompare/lastemperor/1r2.jpg>
Korean: <http/www.gweep.net/~trystero/images/TLE/TLE-1.jpg>

French: <http/207.136.67.23/film/dvdcompare/lastemperor/2-r2.jpg>
Korean: <http/www.gweep.net/~trystero/images/TLE/TLE-2.jpg>

French: <http/207.136.67.23/film/dvdcompare/lastemperor/3r2.jpg>
Korean: <http/www.gweep.net/~trystero/images/TLE/TLE-3.jpg>

French: <http/207.136.67.23/film/dvdcompare/lastemperor/4-r2.jpg>
Korean: <http/www.gweep.net/~trystero/images/TLE/TLE-4.jpg>

These aren't quite exact frame matches (I did them in a hurry), but they're
close enough to be a good basis for comparison.

The two discs are roughly comparable, but look to be different transfers:
the French R2 is much more red-hued (especially noticeable in the skin
tones), while the Korean disc seems more yellowish. I think the Korean
transfer is superior: the image is more detailed and has less colour
bleeding. Check out the third screen-cap: the white insignia on the
bearers' red robes is clearer, as is the pattern of the golden fabric on
the front facings of Pu Yi's litter. Similarly, in the fourth cap, the
pattern of the straw in Johnston's hat is more detailed in the Korean
transfer.

(As to whether the reddish or yellowish tinge is more accurate to the
filmmakers' intent, I can't say. Aesthetically, I think I prefer the yellow
hue, but I may be biased in favour of the disc I already own.)

Sadly, I'm not set up to take screen-caps from my LD player, so I can't
compare the US widescreen CAV LD edition to these two. But my recollection
from the A/B comparisons I did back in 2002 is that the LD, while
excellent, can't compare to the colour fidelity (especially the sharp,
non-bleeding reds) on the DVD.

HTH,

doug

--
"Show me the movie that doesn't deal in black and white..."
--James

 

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I've read that the sound is much better on LD for "Journey to the
Centre of the Earth".