Will NiCads break my camera?

[Tony]

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I have a new Konica Minolta Z3. The manual says clearly that the only
batteries that should be used are alkaline or NiMH. I will be buying some
NiMh batteries but I already have some NiCads so is there a real reason why
I shouldn't use them as backup? Or is it just that they won't last very
long?
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Tony W
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"Tony" <news-reply@t-onywoolf.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I have a new Konica Minolta Z3. The manual says clearly that the only
> batteries that should be used are alkaline or NiMH. I will be buying
some
> NiMh batteries but I already have some NiCads so is there a real reason
why
> I shouldn't use them as backup? Or is it just that they won't last very
> long?
> --
> Tony W
> My e-mail address has no hypen
> - but please don't use it, reply to the group.

NiMh batteries have taken over. Few use Nicads, because NiMh batteries can
be charged and recharged without fully depleting them...and because they
pack a real punch for high-draw devices like dicicams and flash.

You can use Nicads all you like, but probably won't be impressed with
performance compared with NiMh.

 

[photoman]

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"Tony" <news-reply@t-onywoolf.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I have a new Konica Minolta Z3. The manual says clearly that the only
> batteries that should be used are alkaline or NiMH. I will be buying
some
> NiMh batteries but I already have some NiCads so is there a real reason
why
> I shouldn't use them as backup? Or is it just that they won't last very
> long?
> --
> Tony W
> My e-mail address has no hypen

And your hyphen is missing an 'h'

 

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"Tony" <news-reply@t-onywoolf.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I have a new Konica Minolta Z3. The manual says clearly that the only
> batteries that should be used are alkaline or NiMH. I will be buying
some
> NiMh batteries but I already have some NiCads so is there a real reason
why
> I shouldn't use them as backup? Or is it just that they won't last very
> long?
> --
> Tony W

There will be no damage. They both start at about 1.4 volts and run down to
1.1 to 1.2 volts. The Ni-MH are likely to be able to deliver more current
when called upon to move the lens motor or power up the flash. The NiCad
may not be up to the task but you are free to try them without any risk.

 

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Harvey wrote:
> "Tony" <news-reply@t-onywoolf.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:l%Yxd.4417$Ar5.3487@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> I have a new Konica Minolta Z3. The manual says clearly that the
>> only batteries that should be used are alkaline or NiMH. I will be
>> buying some NiMh batteries but I already have some NiCads so is
>> there a real reason why I shouldn't use them as backup? Or is it
>> just that they won't last very long?
>> --
>> Tony W
>
> There will be no damage. They both start at about 1.4 volts and run
> down to
> 1.1 to 1.2 volts. The Ni-MH are likely to be able to deliver more
> current when called upon to move the lens motor or power up the
> flash.

If you mean Normal NiCad's, it's oppostie - they can deliver quite larger
currents than NiMH ones. The biggest difference is that NiCd ones have about
half less capacity than NiMH, whihc means NiCd will last half shorter than
NiMH (if we are not talking about memory effect). There are High capacity
NiCd batteries out, and they can't deliver quite as large currents as normal
capacity ones. But, here we're talking about LARGE currents, since AA sizes
NiCd accu can quite easily deliver currents as large as 30A or more, while
NiMH can't go even half as high...
In short, they are in any way totally compatible. So, if one has old ones
which work, why not use them (as backup, as he said).

BTW...the manual doesn't mention NiCd ones simply because they are going
ut - mainly because of smaller capacity and greater environment polution.
(Cd is very harmfull)

 

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Yes, if you throw them at it (and you don't miss).

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Owamanga!

 

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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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>
> "Tony" <news-reply@t-onywoolf.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:l%Yxd.4417$Ar5.3487@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> I have a new Konica Minolta Z3. The manual says clearly that the only
>> batteries that should be used are alkaline or NiMH. I will be buying
> some
>> NiMh batteries but I already have some NiCads so is there a real reason
> why
>> I shouldn't use them as backup? Or is it just that they won't last very
>> long?
>> --
>> Tony W
>> My e-mail address has no hypen
>> - but please don't use it, reply to the group.
>
> NiMh batteries have taken over. Few use Nicads, because NiMh batteries
> can
> be charged and recharged without fully depleting them...and because they
> pack a real punch for high-draw devices like dicicams and flash.
>
> You can use Nicads all you like, but probably won't be impressed with
> performance compared with NiMh.

On the contrary, NiCds with their lower internal resistances will deliver
*much* higher currents (into the 10s of amps) than NiMhs (2-3 amps), and can
charge flashguns much more quickly.
Simple capacity is not all - for instance, it is possible to buy 14Ah
alkaline 'D' cells, but that capacity is at maybe 10s of milliamps drain
rates - you _won't_ get 14 amps for one hour out of them, but you should get
14 milliamps for 1000 hours.

Deep.

 

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"Deep Reset" <DeepReset@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
> news:ty_xd.60906$ka2.48451@fed1read04...
> >
> > "Tony" <news-reply@t-onywoolf.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:l%Yxd.4417$Ar5.3487@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >> I have a new Konica Minolta Z3. The manual says clearly that the only
> >> batteries that should be used are alkaline or NiMH. I will be buying
> > some
> >> NiMh batteries but I already have some NiCads so is there a real reason
> > why
> >> I shouldn't use them as backup? Or is it just that they won't last
very
> >> long?
> >> --
> >> Tony W
> >> My e-mail address has no hypen
> >> - but please don't use it, reply to the group.
> >
> > NiMh batteries have taken over. Few use Nicads, because NiMh batteries
> > can
> > be charged and recharged without fully depleting them...and because they
> > pack a real punch for high-draw devices like dicicams and flash.
> >
> > You can use Nicads all you like, but probably won't be impressed with
> > performance compared with NiMh.
>
> On the contrary, NiCds with their lower internal resistances will deliver
> *much* higher currents (into the 10s of amps) than NiMhs (2-3 amps), and
can
> charge flashguns much more quickly.
> Simple capacity is not all - for instance, it is possible to buy 14Ah
> alkaline 'D' cells, but that capacity is at maybe 10s of milliamps drain
> rates - you _won't_ get 14 amps for one hour out of them, but you should
get
> 14 milliamps for 1000 hours.
>
> Deep.

I said nothing to the contrary, but instead pointed to the
charging/depletion characteristics that differentiate the two types. This
is where NiMH shine compared with NiCad.