World’s First Pirate ISP Launching Soon

[pirateboy]

maximum piracy ...ehhh...privacy

 

[eddieroolz]

Sign me up for this when it comes to Canada!

 

[BulkZerker]

Why's everyone that's agaisnt this seem like a troll sent by the RIAA and co?

"ZOMG Terrorists, piracy and naked children! THey gun terk yer jerbs!"

No, fuck the artists TBH, they get their album produced, sell a million copies of an album (and that's considered doing terribly anymore) and probably twice than through iTunes. All in all they make to their pocket (after the total money made is split 3 ways bar minimum with the artist on average getting about 10-30%. Oh I hardly think the record industry is hurting when there is abotu 30 of such albums released by EVERY recording house every quarter!

Piracy some major threat? Please. Why don't you ask some kind under the age of 17 if they know what a torrent is. 10% might know. Piracy isn't an issue when 10% of the people that just "might" listen to your music, watch your video, or use your software, don't pay for it. If a company can pull in a six figure profit of a single piece of work that cost maybe 100K to get from recorded master track to world wide copies sold at every major music store... well if this were stock you'd be in jail for insider trading.

 

[BulkZerker]

[citation][nom]CPfreak[/nom]@ john2005: stop suppressing people, they have the right to think whatever they like to think and tell other people about it, even if it theoretically makes them thieves.As for me: I like the privacy thing, but as has been said; if you made something and worked on it, you should be paid, so i say the state pays the artists, not billions or something, just enough to let them live, and if they're downloaded many times and become stars, they'll be paid more.[/citation]

So I rolled a turd in some sand, the state should pay me.

No, the state paying a person for their labor is well... socialism. The only people that should get paid by the state is those doing labor for the state (road construction, social workers ect)

Maybe I'm reading what you said wrong but that's how it came across man.

 

[sharpless78]

I'm sorry to say that this is not all correct. The Pirate Party only has stated that IF they do well enough to get seats in the swedish parliament, then they will try to using the immunity to host TPB inside the parliament building.

 

[jamesedgeuk2000]

Piracy is good for the Music/Film industry and for the Economy, the sooner the MPI-whatever and friends realise this the better

 

[gorehound]

This is awesome.I refuse to buy anything from the RIAA/MPAA and will never buy any of these DRM downloads.
We need the Pirate Party in the USA or at least a new party.I am sick of the politicians in this country.I hate democrats & republicans.we are living in the United Corporate States of America not the -plain ole USA.

congrats to the pirate party

 

[tommysch]

Go get them!!!

 

[ksampanna]

This's about ISP. Not about torrents. So enough about the piracy crap.

 

[weegee64]

ta152h, you shouldn't call people idiots, especially when you're posting a very flawed argument. While it may be true that piracy is hurting the shareholders, it is ultimately their own fault. The information about piracy and decreased sales is not difficult to find, and if one still invests in a record company after learning about piracy, they deserve to lose their money if it actually does go out of business. Just because piracy is illegal doesn't mean that it isn't happening, and investors need to take that into account.
Also, I admit to piracy, but I don't think that I have a "sense of entitlement." I am simply acting in my best interest by saving money. I am well aware that I am taking a risk of being sued and fined, and if that happens, I won't be complaining.

 

[apocalypseap]

[citation][nom]johnh2005[/nom]I do not see your reasoning here. I think you fell into my quoted excuse of ""I would buy it but it is too expensive. They should lower their prices"" quoted from my first post that you obviously rated down (as I expected you would). I am sorry, but I cannot afford a Lamborghini. Just because "I want to enjoy the nice things in life" does not give me the right to go out and steal one. Sorry, its just a fact of life.[/citation]
That's not a valid comparison. The only way downloading software, etc. could be compared to stealing a car is if you could literally make a copy of said car at your own house using only your physical materials.

[citation][nom]johnh2005[/nom]Now, I guess you think just because something is digital it should cost less? You are fool. Sorry, but if it were your work you would not think so. If an artist in 1970 took the time make an album and sell it for the equivalent of $20 back then why should an artist today not get the same thing just because the distribution of the item is different? Did the artist work less? Did they not put as much effort into it?Just because I spend 100 hours designing a house in AutoCAD instead of hand drafting it on paper does NOT devalue my hard work.The prices are going up for Video Games because of the amount of money being spent developing them. There are games today that cost more than $10 million to develop.[/citation]
You realize that most of the money does NOT go to the developers, right? They typical cap out around $110,000 a year -- and that's for LEAD programmers. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has made over a billion dollars. Where do you think the majority of that is going? People who are "higher on the ladder" than developers; in other words: people that didn't actually work on the game, at all.

 

[nrlitv]

I interviewed the founder of PIRATEisp during which he attacked me with a turtle.

http/FunnyOrDie.com/m/45p3

 

[ShatnerSC]

I do not quite like the idea of a political party or personages taking advantage of their privilege to set up an operation designed to ignore and flaunt a set of laws they do not like, especially when they involve the public.

Anyone signing up to this Pirate ISP would do well to assume all of their activities, and all of their details, will be recorded and will be used in the future should an opportunity for profit arise. I mean if the law can't get to them to slap there wrists on behalf of those with seemingly endless funds and influence, how can Joe or Jane Public expect redress if they find their credit card has been used to fund someone stranger's holiday?

Admittedly, assuming such activities could be traced back to the ISP (which itself would be hard as you could not question the ISP directly and would instead have to eliminate everyone else), taking advantage of their customers in such a way would not do it's backing Pirate Party any good in the polls.. But how many of these indiscretions would need to become public before the party's support was eroded completely, and how long would it take before the public could act? And would you want to be one of those who they took advantage of? Given that they may also have discovered through your online activities certain habits they feel could be used to encourage your silence?

They may claim they will protect your privacy, but with no law restricting their behaviour you'd best act defensively and assume they wont.

 

[vider]

Everyone here seems to ignore one fact. Take a look at this chart, now tell me, how much does an artist make from a CD album that was sold digitally? Peanuts it is. The recording label's cut is (with Napster being the first digital distributor on the list) at 63 %, Now, who's the real thief here? The INTERNET downloader or the record company?

 

[willys]

"Artists should be paid for their work, just like you and me."

If artists were paid for their work at the same rate (or relatively similar) I'm paid for my work then I'd care about piracy. But alas, in my field we don't have publicists to enhance my charms, only productivity.