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I bought the phone with my 2 year contract and the V 400 does not have good
signal in my house despite a claim by singular that there is a tower 2 miles
away.
On the invoice for the phone I bought it says I can return the phone only if
the phone has less than 20 minutes use on it...
You mean to tell me if I decide the signal is not good enough to risk paying
a 2 year service contract and decide to cancel my contract before I get
"locked" in for two years, that they will not let me return my phone if it
has more than 20 minutes on it?
And to top it all off the guy who activated it locked the phone up while
trying to activate it.. I get a ENTER UNLOCK CODE when trying to access
anything other than dialing the phone..
I mean give me a break! This is a multi media phone with web access .. It
will take longer than twenty minutes just trying to figure out how to use
all these bells and whistles!!
It does not look very good though.. I am getting dropped calls and my signal
is just as bad as this T MOBILE phone that I am going to replace because of
300 dollar a month phone bills due to lack of signal and having to go over
my minutes in order to talk on it because it is not possible to use the
mobile to mobile minutes.
Granted this is a mobile phone, but if I am going to pay this much for
service I want to be able to use it in my house as well as on the road..

Are all these phones created equal? On my plan I got the cheepo nokia 1100
as the "other" phone and it works just as good.. or might I say BAD as the V
400..

Any suggestions in the next 15 days will truly be appreciated
 
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Listen, it really a radio, and a lot depends on how the antenna is set
up, the terrain, yada yada yada.

you have made what I consider a basic mistake. expecting the same
quality of service form a wireless device than you would get from a
wired device. you just cant get it.

Oh, and I forget, what is you house made of and what kind of roof does
it have? that affect signal strenght also.

I dont care what people say, one will not get the same quality of
service from a wireless phone that from a wired phone.

IMHO

Chip



Chunkufarney wrote:
> I bought the phone with my 2 year contract and the V 400 does not have good
> signal in my house despite a claim by singular that there is a tower 2 miles
> away.
> On the invoice for the phone I bought it says I can return the phone only if
> the phone has less than 20 minutes use on it...
> You mean to tell me if I decide the signal is not good enough to risk paying
> a 2 year service contract and decide to cancel my contract before I get
> "locked" in for two years, that they will not let me return my phone if it
> has more than 20 minutes on it?
> And to top it all off the guy who activated it locked the phone up while
> trying to activate it.. I get a ENTER UNLOCK CODE when trying to access
> anything other than dialing the phone..
> I mean give me a break! This is a multi media phone with web access .. It
> will take longer than twenty minutes just trying to figure out how to use
> all these bells and whistles!!
> It does not look very good though.. I am getting dropped calls and my signal
> is just as bad as this T MOBILE phone that I am going to replace because of
> 300 dollar a month phone bills due to lack of signal and having to go over
> my minutes in order to talk on it because it is not possible to use the
> mobile to mobile minutes.
> Granted this is a mobile phone, but if I am going to pay this much for
> service I want to be able to use it in my house as well as on the road..
>
> Are all these phones created equal? On my plan I got the cheepo nokia 1100
> as the "other" phone and it works just as good.. or might I say BAD as the V
> 400..
>
> Any suggestions in the next 15 days will truly be appreciated
>
>
 
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In article <10d1fj8dmh1e8a9@corp.supernews.com>,
Ralph Blach <rblach@NOSPAMintrex..XXXnet> wrote:

> Listen, it really a radio, and a lot depends on how the antenna is set
> up, the terrain, yada yada yada.
>
> you have made what I consider a basic mistake. expecting the same
> quality of service form a wireless device than you would get from a
> wired device. you just cant get it.
>
> Oh, and I forget, what is you house made of and what kind of roof does
> it have? that affect signal strenght also.
>
> I dont care what people say,

You mean the salespeople for the wireless carriers?




> one will not get the same quality of
> service from a wireless phone that from a wired phone.
>
> IMHO
>
> Chip
 
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Robert,

yes, I just would NOT expect a cell phone to be as reliable as a
wired phone.

In a large city, they might approach the reliability, because of the
number of cells, but you will ALWAYS have the problem of building
penatration. As a ham radio operator, and engineer,
air linked transformers, (what radios really are) are delivish beasts.

They are depenent on the atmospheric conditions, what material the
terrian is composed of, and of course quite litteraly the sun

What kind of solar storms are arround.

If you absolutely have to get a phone call, used a wired phone.

I will give a couple of examples that have been reported in this and
other forums.

Person goes to Seattle, and locks on to a Canadian GSM tower and gets
charged a fortune even though he never left the US.

Person gets a huge roaming bill for a town 20 miles across the bay in
new england.

End result. You locked on to the tower, you are responcible for the bill.

Radio is funny and one can be suprised where the strongest signal is
located.

Chip

Robert M. wrote:
> In article <10d1fj8dmh1e8a9@corp.supernews.com>,
> Ralph Blach <rblach@NOSPAMintrex..XXXnet> wrote:
>
>
>>Listen, it really a radio, and a lot depends on how the antenna is set
>>up, the terrain, yada yada yada.
>>
>>you have made what I consider a basic mistake. expecting the same
>>quality of service form a wireless device than you would get from a
>>wired device. you just cant get it.
>>
>>Oh, and I forget, what is you house made of and what kind of roof does
>>it have? that affect signal strenght also.
>>
>>I dont care what people say,
>
>
> You mean the salespeople for the wireless carriers?
>
>
>
>
>
>>one will not get the same quality of
>>service from a wireless phone that from a wired phone.
>>
>>IMHO
>>
>>Chip