Courts Order Seizure of PS3 Hacker's Computers

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they just don't like this guy telling the world how to hack their PS3. They have every right to do what they want with the PS3, so long as they don't break any actual laws. If I can buy a Dell, or a toaster, and do whatever I want with it, why can't I do that to a PS3?
 
[citation][nom]Eelrijue[/nom]Let me give you guys an example. If you purchase a car, you can do whatever you wish to do with it. But guess what, the car has to pass emissions and inspections, meaning it can't be too low, or the lights can't be too bright, tint can't be too dark, exhaust can't be this or that or its too loud. Tires must have a specific line of wear, etc. You kids might think it's okay to do what you wish, and for the most part i agree, but "America" won't allow this too happen as free of a country you might believe you live in. It's not what it seems.[/citation]


not even close.. you can mod a car in anyway you want if its a track only car. You dont take the ps3 out into public so you should be able to do what ever you want with it

a 454 with straight piped exhaust is completely legal as long as your not on public roads and annoying the hell out of your neighbors.

you can fail emissions all you want as long as the car is not driven on the roads.

when everyone was modding xbox 1s it was legal as long as you did not sell them. also, you were banned on xbox live because M$ didnt want you modding. Why should the ps3 be different.
 
Even Microsoft couldn't stop people from running Linux on the XBox, I guess corporate money buys more judges these days.
 
[citation][nom]firefoxx04[/nom]not even close.. you can mod a car in anyway you want if its a track only car. You dont take the ps3 out into public so you should be able to do what ever you want with ita 454 with straight piped exhaust is completely legal as long as your not on public roads and annoying the hell out of your neighbors.you can fail emissions all you want as long as the car is not driven on the roads.[/citation]

Not true; if you're racing, you just have a different set of rules to go by. Even my off-road series has a very strict set of rules you have to follow. Every series does. And even of you're just bombing around in your back yard, without a cat you're just asking to burn your house down (that's one of the reasons the cat was originally designed to prevent; to stop fires caused by exhaust with tall grasses and weeds in urban areas)

So ya if you want to bomb around your back yard, you legally can do almost anything; but to drive on the street or any sanctioned series, on or off-road, track or not, you have to follow rules. The example of the car isn't a good one. Even for other reasons that not all areas have to pass inspections.

But banning people for modding their boxes is just completely stupid and self-defeating. They aren't even stopping cheaters which is probably their biggest 'excuse'. Heck, as far as that's concerned, I'm suprised they don't count the dance-dance revolution pad as a modified, illegal controller... (not that anyone would want to play it but, it's the only weird type of semi-stock thing that came to mind...)
 
So they should go after the military for buying hundreds of PS3's and hacking them to use as killing tools. Talk about video game violence.
 
LOL Sony is crying cuz they haven't sold as many PS3s as Microsoft has XBOX 360s. Sony should just let this go because this guy is doing them a favor. The XBOX 360 was hacked a long time ago.
 
So many are obviously ignorant as to the kinds of evils that was unleashed. Many multiplayer games are now easily hacked that affects legitimate users. The only reason sony made their system so locked down, including that of linux was because of the damage hackers could do against the rest of the community, it wasnt just lost profits from pirated games, it was the hacking of legitimate services. Microsoft gets away with such because they get to lock you out of the paid online network for hacking, Sony on the other hand offers a free online network. Sony is really only at fault for relying on the PS3s security to protect other users.
 
Sony doesn't own the hardware in the PS3 in your home right? You are not renting the PS3. You own it. Doesn't that mean you can do what ever the hell you choose to do with it?
 
Stupid move on sony's part, really. Admittedly, the hacker probably shouldn't have attributed it to himself, not the best idea on his part, but arresting one person is only going to encourage someone else to keep on updating the, for lack of a better term, jailbreak software. Since the vulnerability is in the hardware, there's nothing sony can do to stop people from running whatever they want on their systems, no matter how many times they change the encryption key. (Not that it matters though, theres nothing stopping people from simply not getting system updates.)
I really don't see why sony cares. Its certainly not going to affect sales that one in maybe a few thousand of their customers could go through a bit of trouble to run a few pirated games. Sure, that one in a thousand may play a thousand pirated games in a year, but thats still only at most a few dozen lost sales each. The 360 has been cracked for years, does anyone see microsoft whining about it? They just aren't losing anything significant and they are even gaining an (admittedly very small) userbase who likes to mod games or do whatever else they want with their console.
You'd think the console companies would just take the hint that theres no benefit to having a closed platform. Those that want to exploit an open system are few and far between, and will do it on a closed system anyway. Those that don't exploit it certainly wont be hurt by it.
One could take the "it causes hackers" argument, but you only need to look at pc games to see that its hardly an issue. Sure, you'll run into a hacker once in a great while, but it's *extremely* rare. Myself, I've seen a total of 3 hackers in more than a dozen years playing pc games. Occasional good luck combined with the occasional good player and existence of those that actually do hack has created this idea that anyone who is better than you must be cheating.
Guess I'll rack this one up as another blatant publicity stunt on sony's part...
 
Haha, this is actually kind of funny. Jurisdiction hasn't even been established in this case yet has it? So in essence, isn't this a hollow judgement not applicable to the state of New Jersey residents? Why do I think no computers are going to be handed over.
 
[citation][nom]dogman_1234[/nom]Was he doing something legitimately illegal? I don't think Sony would go after the hack unless thee were things to harm Sony, and I don't think 'hacking' the unit constitutes as illegal. It seems he wanted to modify the unit for some other use. Let him be. If he screws up thousands of units....more money to Sony.[/citation]

He didn't just hack it, he made it so that everyone could pirate games on it and use hacks on multiplayer. As a legitimate user I'm annoyed by the frequent updates and the destruction of the Linux feature.
 
[citation][nom]SirGCal[/nom] without a cat you're just asking to burn your house down (that's one of the reasons the cat was originally designed to prevent; to stop fires caused by exhaust with tall grasses and weeds in urban areas)


Sorry off topic, but this really caught my eye lol

Catalytic converters were never designed to stop fires caused by exhaust. They were designed to reduce toxic emissions. In fact, they can cause fires underneath them due to high running temps. That is why they designed heat shields for them. =P
 
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