Courts Order Seizure of PS3 Hacker's Computers

[_Pez_]

and that's why I have not bought a gaming console. And I wont, PC I love you ! 😀

 

[xrodney]

[citation][nom]TheWhiteRose000[/nom]Like giving anyone a restraining order has ever stopped a hacker's progress.It's human nature to overcome the challenge's we place in front of our self's.[/citation]
There is one word for overcome the challenge's in our lives, its called Evolution, but seems some still not getting it.

 

[natural11]

Such ignorance in these comments. Because of the hack the floodgates have been opened for hacking online games, which not only ruins the online experience for anyone trying to play online, but forces Sony to spend resources patching vulnerabilities. People seem surprised that Sony would act on this.

 

[bustapr]

21 years old.... somebody give him a job

 

[Parrdacc]

[citation][nom]Eelrijue[/nom]Let me give you guys an example. If you purchase a car, you can do whatever you wish to do with it. But guess what, the car has to pass emissions and inspections, meaning it can't be too low, or the lights can't be too bright, tint can't be too dark, exhaust can't be this or that or its too loud. Tires must have a specific line of wear, etc. You kids might think it's okay to do what you wish, and for the most part i agree, but "America" won't allow this too happen as free of a country you might believe you live in. It's not what it seems.[/citation]

Well maybe where you live, but in my state their are no car inspections.

 

[mustbhacks]

[citation][nom]JOSHSKORN[/nom]LOL Sony is crying cuz they haven't sold as many PS3s as Microsoft has XBOX 360s. Sony should just let this go because this guy is doing them a favor. The XBOX 360 was hacked a long time ago.[/citation]


Now lets compare how many households have functioning PS3's to households with functioning 360's =)

 

[house70]

Greedy a$$holes.

 

[mustbhacks]

[citation][nom]spockbr[/nom]Oh Boy.United State of America. What's up doc?You have Guantanamo, and now George Holtz.More and more less hope.Is the United States of America a real democracy? I want to believe, but it's hard.[/citation]

The US has never been, and probably will never be a democracy.

 

[Pacman366]

I understand the ps3 community frustration to the hackers, but in in all fairness when the xbox and xbox 360 were hacked, all the hacked xboxes were all neutralized from accessing xbox live with in days of the hack(s), preventing cheaters from ruining live. So far, sony has not stepped up to bat to stop the cheaters other than releasing 3.56 (witch does vary little to combat the cheaters). We need to stop heckling the hackers and start heckling sony to make PSN reasonably secure.

 

[Guest]

Let's Holtz Rot in Jail for doing illegal stuff and leave him there.

 

[rooket]

[citation][nom]kristoffe[/nom]sony is shooting themself in the foot on this one. the hardware is too exotic and not selling well compared to the xb360, and they need to allow this geekdom to continue. no linux, now this. really? really bad pr.[/citation]

I'd have to agree. This is very bad PR among other things. I'm glad I don't own a PS3 and I doubt I really ever will. I just don't need more sony products. They are all flash in the pan or overhyped. PS2 was the beginning of that. And sure PS2 has a great library but it didn't deliver when it was launched and the "emotion engine" wasn't nearly as good as the forthcoming PCs of the day.

If I was Sony, for PR and sport, I would drop the case and apologize to the computer gaming community right away before they cause any more irreprebale(sp) harm.

 

[cookoy]

the crux of the problem for sony here is the hacking info may be published online, and this will cause sony "irreparable damage". As they say, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

 

[Guest]

The data will simply be leaked into the 'nets...

 

[eddieroolz]

It's my belief that the hacking of the PS3 itself is not illegal, but the people who use it for other purposes prohibited by Sony is taking the risk. This move is definitely bad PR for Sony in my opinion.

 

[mikem_90]

[citation][nom]Smochina[/nom]After all these years and you still don't get it. Sony looses money for every PS3 sold, as does Microsoft for every Xbox sold, they make it back by getting a percentage from every game sold. All these 'hackers' buying PS3's just so they use the linux on them doesn't make Sony happy. So yes, Sony could do better without you guys buying their consoles. Also, hacking it also makes game developers less likely to develop for that platform which again means loosing more money. Just look at PSP, hacked by even a brainless monkey, end result? Crap games and no game developer looks as it as a viable platform. PC also is less targeted by game developers, sure they make a port of the games they make for Xbox, but we all know who clunky and dumb games have become over the years. So all these hackers managed to do one thing and one thing only. Push independent game studios into bankruptcy, and major publishers out of the PC world and more into consoles. Thank you very much and go fuck yourselfs. Pieces of shit humans who think they own everything without paying anything for what they use.[/citation]

So because most video game console companies use a really bad business plan, we all have to suffer under their whims? The DMCA was about enforcing it so their poorly chosen business plan still makes a profit.

People will tinker, we WANT to tinker, to create, make, alter, change one thing into another, do something cool, etc..

I don't pretend to know Geohot's motives, or know the full extent of what his code all allows, but it seems clear that when Sony started taking away these features for their console, the modding community around it got very annoyed. Yeah, piracy is bad for business, but there are WAYS to deal with it properly. There are even ways to add to the community and make piracy less desirable.

Loss leader business plans are becoming too prevalent. We get printer companies suing toner cartridge makers for "violating our patents" because they make compatible toner cartridges.

 

[g00fysmiley]

actually... sont and m$ los tmoney on initial consoles that's tru,e but starting witht the ps3 slim and the 2nd die shrink on the xbox 360 bothcompanies now MAKE money on ther consoles... way to be living in 2008 Smochina

and i agree that pirating is bad for eveyybody and i onyl play legitimatly purchased games.. results in me looking on steam for sales, and never getting to play many first run games as they cost to much for me... but that's my choice.. now i will say i DID hack my legitimatly purchased ps3 to GET LINUX BACK it was there when i paid for it, i use it to run my ps3 as a dvr and blueray player ... occational gaming console, the ps3 still only plays legitimate ps3 games ( i only own a few games for it tekken 6, borderlands and the expantions, chronicles of riddik, and little big planet ) mostly its a blueray/dvr cause steam games on sale are cheaper usually... every ps3 game i own is off the target clearance shelf ... btu its still a legitimate copy

 

[rhino13]

I realize that Hotz was breaking the agreement, but that's really all they have here right?
I mean the rest of this would just fall under jailbreaking, not under actual piracy, right?

 

[maestintaolius]

Sony's decision to mess with the kinds of people that install Linux on their PS3s was clearly not thought out very well.

 

[ciderax]

Just wait! possible jail time for hacking a PS3 is just the start... soon you'll be sentenced to death for opening an apple products casing. >

 

[JerryC]

[citation][nom]SirGCal[/nom]Not true; if you're racing, you just have a different set of rules to go by. Even my off-road series has a very strict set of rules you have to follow. Every series does. And even of you're just bombing around in your back yard, without a cat you're just asking to burn your house down (that's one of the reasons the cat was originally designed to prevent; to stop fires caused by exhaust with tall grasses and weeds in urban areas)So ya if you want to bomb around your back yard, you legally can do almost anything; but to drive on the street or any sanctioned series, on or off-road, track or not, you have to follow rules. The example of the car isn't a good one. Even for other reasons that not all areas have to pass inspections.But banning people for modding their boxes is just completely stupid and self-defeating. They aren't even stopping cheaters which is probably their biggest 'excuse'. Heck, as far as that's concerned, I'm suprised they don't count the dance-dance revolution pad as a modified, illegal controller... (not that anyone would want to play it but, it's the only weird type of semi-stock thing that came to mind...)[/citation]


Your take on things is slightly off. Oh and let me point out that there are places in the US where the only requirement for your vehicle is that it have functioning lights, an uncracked windshield and mufflers. Anything and everything else is legal in those places. Trust me I know, because I live in one of those locations. I run an engine in my old truck that would cause most inspectors from other places to pass out!

So, the point is, the PS3 belongs to the young man and he can do whatever he wants with it. The only rule he HAD to follow was purchasing the unit. I would expect this rulling to be appealed and I fully expect the appeal to come down in his favor.