Courts Order Seizure of PS3 Hacker's Computers

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kristoffe

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sony is shooting themself in the foot on this one. the hardware is too exotic and not selling well compared to the xb360, and they need to allow this geekdom to continue. no linux, now this. really? really bad pr.
 

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Was he doing something legitimately illegal? I don't think Sony would go after the hack unless thee were things to harm Sony, and I don't think 'hacking' the unit constitutes as illegal. It seems he wanted to modify the unit for some other use. Let him be. If he screws up thousands of units....more money to Sony.
 

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wasnt it another group that caimed to figure out the key or whatever so they could sign their own software. What happened with that
 
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Let me give you guys an example. If you purchase a car, you can do whatever you wish to do with it. But guess what, the car has to pass emissions and inspections, meaning it can't be too low, or the lights can't be too bright, tint can't be too dark, exhaust can't be this or that or its too loud. Tires must have a specific line of wear, etc. You kids might think it's okay to do what you wish, and for the most part i agree, but "America" won't allow this too happen as free of a country you might believe you live in. It's not what it seems.
 

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So, we will need to purchase a license, proof of insurance,and register our computers & game boxes? All this so we can operate game boxes (and PCs) on tax supported home networks, or use our government owned game cartridges. The comparison to a car that is used on tax supported, public represented streets and highways is out of context. This is called "context dropping," and is a form of evasive argument.
 

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Okay person in New Jearsy, we're going to send some California Highway Patrol officers over there to seize your computers, or you can just send us whatever you have laying around.
 

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Dude, you are totally wrong comparing car to PS3. The right analogy would be new toaster to PS3.
The reason you have to pass car inspection is due to safety reasons. You still can mod your car any way you want as long as you will not take it to the public roads.
Got it?
 

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Like giving anyone a restraining order has ever stopped a hacker's progress.
It's human nature to overcome the challenge's we place in front of our self's.
 

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@ injected_metal
Those world wide numbers don't include PS3's holiday sales... the PS3 sold 6.5 million last year during the holidays and its sales are this year are out pacing last years. If you put two and two together, the difference will be 2 million units or less. I don't think somebody is a fanboy for posting the facts.
 

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So by re-enabling advertised features that Sony removed, he's in violation of the law? It was clearly stated that his "hack" could not play pirated games.
How many other advertised features is Sony going to remove? If they stay on course the only thing the PS3 will end up doing is playing PS3 games and that's it. Burned music/videos could possibly pirated so gotta kill that feature, might surf a site like megavideo so remove the browser, might use your PC to serve pirated music/videos so kiss network share goodbye, media via USB forget about it now they only charge your controllers.
Me and my family have been Sony products fans for a long time but with this PS# mess we have ditched every single one of their products and will NEVER BUY SONY AGAIN.
 

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Their fight against the Linux system is why I avoided the PS3 still to date. I won't get one until they wise up. Not that I now would buy a 6 year old glorified PC now anyhow (they missed their window). But the only one they are hurting is themselves. They should recognize this and embrace/hire people like this. Not sue them. I never did like Sony in particular as a company, now just another reason...
 

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all the real know how is in his brain, not on his hdds and pcs.
as soon as he gets some hardware he can continue.
there are lots of old pcs outside beside the dumpster. those old pentium 3 is more then enough power for a linux haxor.
 

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So do we really own the devices we buy? If I pay several hundred dollars for something I want to be able to flash the toilet or make french fries with it wether is a PS3 or iPhone iPad iCrap
 

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Is TH a legitimate news source, or just an ESPN-highlight-reel version of the news? I feel like this article does little to actually highlight the reality of this story, where Sony is attempting to redefine the boundary between manufacturer and consumer ownership. The register did little to help the article, as they gave a biased opinion, saying that "The IBM Cell processor is good for brute force attacks, among other things." To exclusively highlight the use of the hardware in brute force attacks gives an unfair bias to the story, one which harms the positive uses of the processor. To better understand this logic, think of the computer. You can surf the web, sure, but you can also use it for devious things, such as watching illegal types of pornography, and hacking into databases. But to only mention the pornography or hacking is to discredit all of the other benefits of computers and technology.
 

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I don't get it. Wasn't there some recent legislation that made jailbreaking the iPhone legal and the only recourse Apple had was to deny warranty? So how is this Sony thing any different?
 

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This just goes to show how jacked up our legal system really is. There is nothing illegal about what he's done. I would not be surprised if the judge got paid under the table to go along with Sony's wishes.

Sadly, this guy will probably eat it so someone else can fatten their wallet.
 

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[citation][nom]superjojo[/nom]@ injected_metal Those world wide numbers don't include PS3's holiday sales... the PS3 sold 6.5 million last year during the holidays and its sales are this year are out pacing last years. If you put two and two together, the difference will be 2 million units or less. I don't think somebody is a fanboy for posting the facts.[/citation]

Unless those facts are wrong. Neither are correct as Microsoft has sold 51.2 million units worldwide and Sony has sold 47.0 million units worldwide. If you look at weekly or monthly numbers, however, Sony is closing the gap at a pace of roughly 80,000 consoles a month. That isn't quick enough to overcome a 4 million gap before the next generation of consoles is released and doesn't take into account expected price drops or what the Kinect/Move might do to long term sales.

Either way, Sony isn't really struggling with the PS3 but they are not making nearly as much profit per unit sold as Microsoft and Nintendo are with their respective consoles. I still agree with the notion that Sony over-engineered the original design and didn't get it right until they started stripping it down two years later. $600 up front cost was outrageous and that's why they are still the third most popular console this generation.
 

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this is disappointing because someone could purchase a ps3 and use it as a sweet rig for servers or gaming, im not sure how well it actually runs but from its specs i can only imagine the possibilities. besides what has this guy done wrong modifying your own property? and then telling people about it, its not like hes going around installing the mods himself lol
 
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