HP or Asus which should i get?

[la321]

Are asus laptops good? i'm trying to figure out which laptop to get http://www.sears.com/asus-15.6inch-k55n-rin4-notebook-pc-w-amd/p-00332956000P?prdNo=10&blockNo=10&blockType=G10 or http://www.sears.com/hp-envy-6-1014nr-15.6inch-led-sleekbook-pc/p-00333212000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5

 

[Maxx_Power]

This CPU scores very highly relative to other laptops of the same price range (4198):
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A8-4500M+APU

Many mid-range performance laptop CPUs will score anywhere from 1400 to just over 2000, but it is rare to find a CPU with this performance for $549 laptop.

Sure, but remember that Passmark is best used comparing within a given architecture. For example, Bulldozer 8120 generally outscores an i5 2500k by a good margin, but we all know from specific benchmarks that the i5 is much faster in games and a lot of usage scenarios.

Even though the APU scores about the same as a desktop i3 2120, you can't draw the conclusion that it will be good at everything, it largely depends on your target usage.

 

[la321]

when i get the laptop i'm thinking of overclocking the processor speed should i?

 

[Maxx_Power]

when i get the laptop i'm thinking of overclocking the processor speed should i?

You will not be able to easily. Brand name boxes (desktop and laptop) USUALLY do not include overclocking options in the BIOS. So you'll have to go software, if AT ALL, and it is notoriously unstable and very risky on a laptop due to the limited power circuitries and heatsinks.

 

[la321]

does anyone know if this laptop has the two left and right buttons below the touchpad like most laptops have?

 

[Maxx_Power]

Most laptops have only ONE right and ONE left button beneath the trackpad. The ASUS has that type of layout with a clicker on the left and a clicker on the right. I think it has a design similar to the Lenovo trackpads with a continuous trackpad that extends to the buttons with a small divide between the buttons.

 

[Tibbs01]

Are the intel i3, i5 and i7 quad core processors?

All mobile i3's and i5's are dual core only. i7's are dual core as well unless denoted by a "QM" at the end, so you need to be careful in what you are looking at.

 

[la321]

Thanks everyone and I thought amd processors could be overclocked that's why I asked if this laptop could be overclocked or is 2.2 fast enough?

 

[Maxx_Power]

Thanks everyone and I thought amd processors could be overclocked that's why I asked if this laptop could be overclocked or is 2.2 fast enough?

Not in a laptop. Your chances to be able to overclock and chances of stable overclocking for significant gains are nearly non-existent in laptops, doesn't matter who makes the CPU. The only instances where I know you can overclock the CPU are in the desktop replacement (DTR) laptop category, but then they are hulking, huge and power hungry and meant to be used literally as desktops, but even in the DTRs, this is exceedingly rare.

2.2 is plenty if you only want to do simple things like browse the web, office like applications, HD videos, etc... It is not enough for anything thing else.

I'm not sure which computer you are looking at with a 2.2ghz processor. Is it an Intel or AMD ? Your original laptop choices included a A6-4455m which is an Ultra Low Voltage processor with low power consumption meant for ultrabooks or the like. The performance (CPU+Graphics) on that ULV processor is very low. The A8-4500m is nearly twice as fast in CPU+GPU applications (games). But none of them are clocked exactly at 2.2ghz...

If it is an Intel i7 with 2.2ghz, then that's plenty, due to far better IPC and turbo.

 

[jboogey]

ASUS>>>>>>HP.

HP is ranked bottom in North America for # of repairs per laptop.

ASUS is ranked near the top, with Lenovo and Apple.

Last time I read the stats...

Being the #1 manufacturer of computers in the world I think they would have the most repairs.

When I worked at a repair facility for best buy, HP always had the biggest department because they had the most repairs because, you guessed it they had the most laptops.

If gateway or toshiba or any brand for that matter sold the same amount of laptops, theyd be ranked bottom too.

 

[la321]

I posted the link to the laptop I'm getting when I first made the thread

 

[Maxx_Power]

I posted the link to the laptop I'm getting when I first made the thread

That's what I mean. By your links, NONE of the laptop processors run at 2.2 ghz. It is very unclear to me what you meant by 2.2 ghz being sufficient.

 

[la321]

http://www.sears.com/asus-15.6inch-k55n-rin4-notebook-pc-w-amd/p-00332956000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5 it says 2.2 cpu speed

 

[Maxx_Power]

http://www.sears.com/asus-15.6inch-k55n-rin4-notebook-pc-w-amd/p-00332956000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5 it says 2.2 cpu speed

I don't know where they got their specs from, but as per this:

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-A8-Series%20A8-4500M.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-A-Series-A8-4500M-Notebook-Processor.74884.0.html

It is not 2.2 ghz, although from 1.9-2.8 depending on turbo.

Go by the model number, not their specs, I suspect they made a typo.

 

[la321]

i don't know the cpu speed then until i get it unless it's 2.8

 

[Maxx_Power]

i don't know the cpu speed then until i get it unless it's 2.8

The A8 4500m has the following speeds:

Default: 1.9 GHz Turbo: 2.8 GHz

So if your application loads half of the cores only, you might get 2.8 for a while (if there are no thermal issues) on half the cores.

BUT, count on it as 1.9ghz for multi-core workloads. There is no guarantee that it will hit or hold the turbo speeds above 1.9ghz. Compare base speeds when you shop CPU speeds.

 

[la321]

i did look at the cpu speed but didn't know they would put the wrong speed on it looks like i will be going somewhere else

 

[la321]

i might get one of these laptop http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+15.6%26%2334%3B+Laptop+-+6GB+Memory+-+750GB+Hard+Drive+-+Aluminum+Lake+Blue/5584485.p?id=1218666586495&skuId=5584485 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dell+-+Inspiron+14%26%2334%3B+Laptop+-+6GB+Memory+-+500GB+Hard+Drive+-+Espresso+Black/4807251.p?id=1218531578574&skuId=4807251#tabbed-customerreviews or http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dell+-+Inspiron+15.6%26%2334%3B+Laptop+-+6GB+Memory+-+750GB+Hard+Drive+-+Diamond+Black/5892069.p?id=1218703221538&skuId=5892069 it's processor goes up to 3.1 the clock speed is 2.5 so i guess my base speed is 2.5ghz

 

[Maxx_Power]

That laptop isn't bad for the money, but would you consider Lenovo ? Or a slightly more expensive model ?

The Lenovo U410 (an ultrabook with Ivy Bridge Intel CPU) was on sale at futureshop for only 729.00 dollars, for example.

There is this model (from the canadian website of futureshop, I'm sure the US version is there too):

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/lenovo-lenovo-ideapad-15-6-3rd-gen-intel-core-i5-3210m-laptop-p580-grey-p580/10206587.aspx?path=a1cff338e726e703560e1bc6ca595c87en02

That seems like a good deal.

 

[la321]

what about this one? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Lenovo+-+15.6%22+IdeaPad+Laptop+-+6GB+Memory+-+500GB+Hard+Drive+-+Silver+Gray/4676403.p?id=1218505324513&skuId=4676403&cmp=RMX&ky=2oh0NrwOl4j1qjMx3Oy2gXfVGhMUl0WiJ&ci_src=11138&ci_sku=4676403&AID=10474050&PID=3152380&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2FLenovo%2B-%2B15.6%2522%2BIdeaPad%2BLaptop%2B-%2B6GB%2BMemory%2B-%2B500GB%2BHard%2BDrive%2B-%2BSilver%2BGray%2F4676403.p%3Fid%3D1218505324513%26skuId%3D4676403%26cmp%3DRMX%26ky%3D2oh0NrwOl4j1qjMx3Oy2gXfVGhMUl0WiJ%26ci_src%3D11138%26ci_sku%3D4676403&ref=39&CJPID=3152380&loc=01

 

[Maxx_Power]

what about this one? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Lenovo+-+15.6%22+IdeaPad+Laptop+-+6GB+Memory+-+500GB+Hard+Drive+-+Silver+Gray/4676403.p?id=1218505324513&skuId=4676403&cmp=RMX&ky=2oh0NrwOl4j1qjMx3Oy2gXfVGhMUl0WiJ&ci_src=11138&ci_sku=4676403&AID=10474050&PID=3152380&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2FLenovo%2B-%2B15.6%2522%2BIdeaPad%2BLaptop%2B-%2B6GB%2BMemory%2B-%2B500GB%2BHard%2BDrive%2B-%2BSilver%2BGray%2F4676403.p%3Fid%3D1218505324513%26skuId%3D4676403%26cmp%3DRMX%26ky%3D2oh0NrwOl4j1qjMx3Oy2gXfVGhMUl0WiJ%26ci_src%3D11138%26ci_sku%3D4676403&ref=39&CJPID=3152380&loc=01

Nothing wrong with that machine. Are you planning to do any gaming ?