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This is simply not true, Arny. You can't have a local government being
responsible for plans that extend outside of it's area of influence because
it innundates the surrounding counties with circumstances they haven't the
possibility to plan on. Your supposition is ill-founded. Local governments
can only respond to local problems. Once it gets outside of the scope of
the locality, it becomes a state problem. If you read some of the
documentation you'll see that emergency management is a state office, with
people in the local communities being a part of the state government as
representatives of the state's policies on emergencies.
For instance, if my house floods, that's my problem. If my house floods and
my neighbor's house floods, we aren't capable of establishing any type of
actions that will cause our other neighbors to put up with our local
problems. However a stupid analogy it might be, it's fair to say it's
accurate. Emergency management starts at the top and works it's way done.
The NO mayor could only call for help. His resources were stressed to the
breaking point, his position as mayor doesn't give him the ability to
confiscate resources from local companies, and so he has no power to
initiate actions when his system breaks down from lack of resources. That's
why only GOVERNORS can call up the National Guard. And that requires a
Presidential declaration of a state of emergency.
The real question is why, when the Louisiana Governor did call for the
National Guard, they didn't show up for days.
--
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http
/blogs.salon.com/0004478/
"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> "Rob Reedijk" <reedijk@hera.med.utoronto.ca> wrote in
> message news:dfkgot$ppf$1@news1.chem.utoronto.ca
>
>
> > The first disturbing image was while there was a quick
> > exodus organised out of New Orleans---all I saw was cars
> > cars cars. I did not see a
> > single bus on those clogged highways. How is possible
> > that in
> > organising a mass exodus, the US did not organise
> > thousands of busses
> > to help the poor evacuate the threatened areas.
>
> If you study disaster planning for US cities, you will find
> that the primary responsible parties are the local and
> regional governments. I expect more Federal intervention in
> this time-honored process may follow recent events.
>
> The public record shows that the New Orlean's mayor's
> biggest concern was liability for calling for an evacuation,
> and that he had to be repeatedly begged by no less than the
> president of the US before he acted.
>
> BTW, the president of the U.S. authorized all necessary
> steps be taken by all federal agencies on Saturday before
> the storm, which was the day he was asked to do so by the
> designated local authority, the governor of Lousiana.
>
> The mayor of New Orleans had about a thousand busses at his
> finger tips. They have been photographed from air and are
> currently *swimming* in New Orleans. The public record
> indicates that he put a whopping ten (10) of them into
> service, for the purpose of moving people to the Superdome.
> This proves that he had control of the busses, but also
> shows his limited vision.
>
> The public record also shows that the mayor told people to
> prepare for only 3-4 days in the dome and bring their own
> food and water. This shows that the mayor underestimated the
> response time of state and federal relief agencies which is
> well known to be 3-5 days. It also shows that the mayor made
> zero infrastructure preparations for his people.
>
> I might speculate that once the proverbial substance hit the
> proverbial fan, the mayor and his political allies went into
> overdrive to raise a smokescreen to cover up his
> questionable actions by blaming the Federal government.
>
>
>
This is simply not true, Arny. You can't have a local government being
responsible for plans that extend outside of it's area of influence because
it innundates the surrounding counties with circumstances they haven't the
possibility to plan on. Your supposition is ill-founded. Local governments
can only respond to local problems. Once it gets outside of the scope of
the locality, it becomes a state problem. If you read some of the
documentation you'll see that emergency management is a state office, with
people in the local communities being a part of the state government as
representatives of the state's policies on emergencies.
For instance, if my house floods, that's my problem. If my house floods and
my neighbor's house floods, we aren't capable of establishing any type of
actions that will cause our other neighbors to put up with our local
problems. However a stupid analogy it might be, it's fair to say it's
accurate. Emergency management starts at the top and works it's way done.
The NO mayor could only call for help. His resources were stressed to the
breaking point, his position as mayor doesn't give him the ability to
confiscate resources from local companies, and so he has no power to
initiate actions when his system breaks down from lack of resources. That's
why only GOVERNORS can call up the National Guard. And that requires a
Presidential declaration of a state of emergency.
The real question is why, when the Louisiana Governor did call for the
National Guard, they didn't show up for days.
--
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http
/blogs.salon.com/0004478/"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:7PqdnXPWscRXV4DeRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> "Rob Reedijk" <reedijk@hera.med.utoronto.ca> wrote in
> message news:dfkgot$ppf$1@news1.chem.utoronto.ca
>
>
> > The first disturbing image was while there was a quick
> > exodus organised out of New Orleans---all I saw was cars
> > cars cars. I did not see a
> > single bus on those clogged highways. How is possible
> > that in
> > organising a mass exodus, the US did not organise
> > thousands of busses
> > to help the poor evacuate the threatened areas.
>
> If you study disaster planning for US cities, you will find
> that the primary responsible parties are the local and
> regional governments. I expect more Federal intervention in
> this time-honored process may follow recent events.
>
> The public record shows that the New Orlean's mayor's
> biggest concern was liability for calling for an evacuation,
> and that he had to be repeatedly begged by no less than the
> president of the US before he acted.
>
> BTW, the president of the U.S. authorized all necessary
> steps be taken by all federal agencies on Saturday before
> the storm, which was the day he was asked to do so by the
> designated local authority, the governor of Lousiana.
>
> The mayor of New Orleans had about a thousand busses at his
> finger tips. They have been photographed from air and are
> currently *swimming* in New Orleans. The public record
> indicates that he put a whopping ten (10) of them into
> service, for the purpose of moving people to the Superdome.
> This proves that he had control of the busses, but also
> shows his limited vision.
>
> The public record also shows that the mayor told people to
> prepare for only 3-4 days in the dome and bring their own
> food and water. This shows that the mayor underestimated the
> response time of state and federal relief agencies which is
> well known to be 3-5 days. It also shows that the mayor made
> zero infrastructure preparations for his people.
>
> I might speculate that once the proverbial substance hit the
> proverbial fan, the mayor and his political allies went into
> overdrive to raise a smokescreen to cover up his
> questionable actions by blaming the Federal government.
>
>
>
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