no idea why Kami3k is getting thumbs down other than from the zealots, Zune HD was in fact a superior product (which probably came to market way too late to win any real market share), it's build quality was exception and extremely sturdy (and i have to say i prefer it's aesthetics to the iPod, felt alot more masculine with it's sharp edged lol), performance was nippy, beats any other MP3 players hands down on sound quality and wifi sync and share was the bomb
it's only weak point was a very poorly supported app market, but as an MP3 player there was very little else to recommend