Need Help fast please.

[drazil_bigbeast]

hi , im thinking of buying a laptop. one of these two.
Please i need to know which one would be best for the gaming . just gaming,

1:
intel i5 4200u 1.6ghz - 2.6 with turbo
6gb ram
2gb nvidia gddr5 gt 750m

2:
intel i7 4500u2 1.8 -3.0 with turbo
8 gb ram
2gb nvidia gddr5 gt 750m

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Both systems have the same graphics, both integrated into the CPU and as an add-in board equivalent, so the major difference is going to be the speed of the CPU. The 2nd system you list, with the i7 will have an advantage in CPU bound games, but honestly, unless you turn your graphics settings down on most games, you'll likely be GPU bound in everything you do with either system, meaning you probably won't see the advantage the i7 has in most games.

 

[drazil_bigbeast]

Both systems have the same graphics, both integrated into the CPU and as an add-in board equivalent, so the major difference is going to be the speed of the CPU. The 2nd system you list, with the i7 will have an advantage in CPU bound games, but honestly, unless you turn your graphics settings down on most games, you'll likely be GPU bound in everything you do with either system, meaning you probably won't see the advantage the i7 has in most games.

thanks for reply, but wont the difference in cpu and ram make any difference to lags or fps??

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Not when the slow performance is caused by something other than the CPU. It doesn't matter how fast your CPU is if you pair it with medium to low end graphics.

RAM quantity only matters when you have an insufficient amount of it. Games that are not specifically coded to run in a 64-bit mode or be large address aware will not even be capable of addressing more than 2 GB of RAM. The extra RAM above what your game is using will be handy for Windows and other background tasks, but even at 6 GB, you likely won't be using it all during gaming. Only a few of the new games can take advantage of that much memory, and they will have more problems due to the limited graphics in most laptops long before the RAM becomes an issue.

The largest factor in your FPS is going to be your graphics card. There is no way around that. Your CPU, no matter how fast it may be, can not feed your graphics subsystem any faster than the graphics subsystem can accept the data. Once your GPU bottlenecks everything, the faster the CPU, the more time the CPU will sit idle.

A big factor in your lag is going to be the quality of your connection to the internet, and your ISP's connection to the broader internet's fabric. Provided your computer is not outright malfunctioning, or operating terribly, you can't do much for that on your end short of switching ISPs.

 

[drazil_bigbeast]

Not when the slow performance is caused by something other than the CPU. It doesn't matter how fast your CPU is if you pair it with medium to low end graphics.

RAM quantity only matters when you have an insufficient amount of it. Games that are not specifically coded to run in a 64-bit mode or be large address aware will not even be capable of addressing more than 2 GB of RAM. The extra RAM above what your game is using will be handy for Windows and other background tasks, but even at 6 GB, you likely won't be using it all during gaming. Only a few of the new games can take advantage of that much memory, and they will have more problems due to the limited graphics in most laptops long before the RAM becomes an issue.

The largest factor in your FPS is going to be your graphics card. There is no way around that. Your CPU, no matter how fast it may be, can not feed your graphics subsystem any faster than the graphics subsystem can accept the data. Once your GPU bottlenecks everything, the faster the CPU, the more time the CPU will sit idle.

A big factor in your lag is going to be the quality of your connection to the internet, and your ISP's connection to the broader internet's fabric. Provided your computer is not outright malfunctioning, or operating terribly, you can't do much for that on your end short of switching ISPs.

cheers, i think the graphic card is good enough, i mean not best but its 750m.. it can run most high end games.. but i was just being paranoid that if i should save 100£ and get i5 or is it worth spending 100 cause i don't wanna be worried later

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Well, I agree with you about the 750m being sufficient to run your games. It's hard to get a decent laptop with high end graphics for anything less than too much money.

I would not think the i5 will ever face a situation where you would benefit from the increase in speed that the i7 would provide in games. The 750m is just not fast enough to need more CPU power than what the i5 is offering. If you look at the specs for both chips, they are both dual-core chips with hyperthreading, thereby appearing as 4-core processors to Windows. The difference is going to be the speeds they are clocked at. I doubt you will see any appreciable difference in performance from the extra 1 MB cache on the i7. That's more to differentiate the two models than anything else.

 

[drazil_bigbeast]

Well, I agree with you about the 750m being sufficient to run your games. It's hard to get a decent laptop with high end graphics for anything less than too much money.

I would not think the i5 will ever face a situation where you would benefit from the increase in speed that the i7 would provide in games. The 750m is just not fast enough to need more CPU power than what the i5 is offering. If you look at the specs for both chips, they are both dual-core chips with hyperthreading, thereby appearing as 4-core processors to Windows. The difference is going to be the speeds they are clocked at. I doubt you will see any appreciable difference in performance from the extra 1 MB cache on the i7. That's more to differentiate the two models than anything else.

hmmm, i checked its reviews on game database, and it says best match for 750m is 8 gm ram.. i5 version is £700 and i7 is 800£..

im tryna buy the lenovo y500 but its out of stock almost evrywhere

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

8GB is a recommendation, rather than a strict requirement. You will only be able to notice the difference when between your game and the OS, you run out of RAM. That's going to depend entirely on how you burden the OS and what games you are playing. There is no harm in getting the higher tiered system strictly for it's 8GB of RAM, but at the same time, it's more than plausible, if you need, you can just upgrade the i5 system to 8GB once it becomes a problem.

Those small differences are not worth the cost, to me, as you can purchase the RAM for less than the price difference, although the processor is likely not upgradeable, and even if it were, there would be significantly more work involved.