Scientists Grow Sperm and Eggs From Stem Cells

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ssalim

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"Gang of 5-year old genetically modified children enslave humanity."

Headline in 2019 (5 years to finish R&D, 5 years for the babies to be old enough to enslave).
 

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[citation][nom]tomrippity02[/nom]Not if he had the intention for us to be imperfect. Genesis Chapter 131 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day. Very good, not perfect.[/citation]

a whole religion based on a series of gross miss-translations.. first from hebrew to latin, then english, etc... its a sad business. Can't blame em for being crazy over something without even bothering to learn their subject matter properly





 

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[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]Art and music are human creations and they are not flawed.[/citation]
Art is neither flawed nor perfect; it merely exists for subjective enjoyment. Music was discovered, but not created by man: it is a manifestation of extant properties of materials, and mathematics - it lives in the Platonic domain.
[citation]But, if God made us humans who are flawed then isn't God also flawed?[/citation]
Only if our being flawed was unintentional, and the only documentation we have - such that it is - says it was intentional.
 

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[citation][nom]gpj[/nom]Are you really that much of a moron?I'm not saying I agree with creating sperm & eggs, but are you serious that you think infertility is as simple as you or your math skills?Even if you were right, 10-15% at each generation does not mean that after 7-10 years the entire population would be infertile. Where did the original 85-90% go? I wish your parents had been in that 10-15% group.[/citation]

I'm just saying that it's cutting into evolution. And that if you can't have a baby naturally due to a genetic defect that defect could be passed on.

If it was 10% of the population now (that decided to do this) it would likely be 10% in the future cause the other 90% would be having kids too. I know this, I'm not stupid and I'm not saying everyone would be infirtle. I'm just saying that it's allowing kids to be born that may be unable to have children instead of letting nature weed out the in-ability to have children naturally.
 

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Oh great.... artificial humans , I'm sure plenty of babies would love to know when they grow up that they were test tube subjects.

Anyone else feel FF7 story line coming back to them?
 

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People who argue that science makes religion irrelevant or that religion proves science flawed is an uneducated ignorant fool. They co-exists quite nicely if people would get off their high horses from both sides of the isle.

I'm a Christian and believe that God created the Universe through the Big Bang and that he created the laws of Physics and Evolution as a tool to create humans. People need to step back and open their eyes, both Christians and atheist scientists.

Science will never replace religion to answer the ultimate origin and meaning of life questions just as religion will never answer the specifics and methods of creation questions because they were never intended for those purposes.
 

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[citation][nom]Gin Fushicho[/nom]Oh great.... artificial humans , I'm sure plenty of babies would love to know when they grow up that they were test tube subjects.Anyone else feel FF7 story line coming back to them?[/citation]

I personally think I would be fine as long as my parents are good loving people. Everything else is melodrama. We have worse things in this world that children find out or grow up in.
 

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I understand the religious/scientific debate. I admire both sides. However, from the Christian side of it, I think God gave us the ability to do these scientific miracles. So, I don't think it's anti-religiion to explore it and reap the benefits.
 

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[citation][nom]ram1009[/nom]Just what the world needs, more babies.[/citation]


Upon reflection, I suspect the reasoning presented in this article is a ploy to keep the religious fanatics of the world at bay. I support stem cell research completely but I doubt anyone who thinks without the assistance of a bible (or other religious book) believes there aren't enough babies already. I wish I'd been infertile.
 

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"The stem cells are taken from embryos, or for better word, early developing children. I don't think they used human embryos in this study, but if it were to reach the goals they are aiming for it would mean they need to harvest human embryos."

What's your freaking point. That's still not killing a child. You might as well say anytime a guy jacksoff he just killed a million babys. THERE CELLS JUST FREAKING CELLS! Until there is a hearbeat/brain wave it is NOT a child.

Relegion.. Keep your believes to yourself, and the ones that do usually are usually pretty decent people. But the ones that try to shove it down our throats tend to be the ones who get caught with child porn or worse..
 

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Use your new friend as a personal body servant or a tireless field hand - the custom tailored genetically engineered humanoid replicant designed especially for your needs.

...from the advertising blimp at the beginning of Blade Runner

Maybe replicants by 2019 isn't such a far-out idea after all.
 

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[citation][nom]coonday[/nom]The stem cells are taken from embryos, or for better word, early developing children. I don't think they used human embryos in this study, but if it were to reach the goals they are aiming for it would mean they need to harvest human embryos.[/citation]

The stem cells come from embryos that would be otherwise destroyed.

If you don't harvest the stem cells from them, they still won't become children.
 

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Should embryos be allowed abortions, now that they can conceive?

And if an embryo conceived from sperm and egg created from an embryo is aborted is it then ok to kill the first embryo?

I'm pretty sure I can get a fatwa ruling on this, but what would be the christian perspective?
 

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Should embryos be allowed abortions, now that they can conceive?

And if an embryo conceived from sperm and egg created from an embryo is aborted is it then ok to kill the first embryo?

I'm pretty sure I can get a fatwa ruling on this, but what would be the christian perspective?
 
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