Stephen Hawking: Hey Stupid, Let's Go Into Space

[husker]

[citation][nom]abllee[/nom]If God exists, which I'm sure he doesn't, then who created God?[/citation]
I see you like logic. So do I. Here is one for you:
A scientific view would hold that there is a limit to what the human brain can comprehend. Just as there is a limit to how much, say, a really smart animal such as a dog could comprehend. A really smart dog could understand a lot of words, and be quite well trained. But it will never comprehend the simplest of human activities such as how to conjugate a verb or make change for a dollar.

Why should we believe that (as another species of animal on earth), that our brains are limitless? That is conceited and inconsistent with the evidence of what we see in other species.

Asking a question that we cannot answer is not proof of anything (either pro or con) other than that of our own limitations.

 

[ionut19]

"We are in danger of destroying ourselves by our greed and stupidity." -agreed.

 

[darkrydr3]

I somehow can't get the image of Spore out of my head

 

[radiumburn]

I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE!!!!

get the flock out of here!

 

[liveonc]

[citation][nom]husker[/nom]I see you like logic. So do I. Here is one for you:A scientific view would hold that there is a limit to what the human brain can comprehend. Just as there is a limit to how much, say, a really smart animal such as a dog could comprehend. A really smart dog could understand a lot of words, and be quite well trained. But it will never comprehend the simplest of human activities such as how to conjugate a verb or make change for a dollar.Why should we believe that (as another species of animal on earth), that our brains are limitless? That is conceited and inconsistent with the evidence of what we see in other species.Asking a question that we cannot answer is not proof of anything (either pro or con) other than that of our own limitations.[/citation]

That was really nicely worded. Humans are superior to animals, & we should act that way too. That even the greatest PC isn't greater than the Humans who made made it, that it took many Humans to make it, also bring to mind that for any one Human or even many Humans can't even begin to be great enough to require any worship. So those who are Religious, need to worship something much greater then All Humanity combined. Who can actually create or destroy something in The Universe that was created. That The Universe itself works, regardless of if Humanity fails, is also fascinating...

 

[rhangman]

So god created this entire universe (maybe more) just for us on this one planet? Seems somewhat redundant.

God was created by us out of ignorance and fear. Makes sense that as we become more enlightened that God becomes less important. Long way to go on that front though and just like any powerful regime those behind the various religions don't want to let go. Much better if the majority of the population continues to live in ignorance and fear.

 

[arges86]

amen

 

[Guest]

This argument is silly.
Science CANNOT address the metaphysical realm. You cannot measure or study something that transcends this physical realm.
But to say "it doesn't exist" has no bearing on the physical world is pretty presumptuous.

 

[jdubsbooth]

[citation][nom]husker[/nom]When Hawking says, "God may exist, but science can explain the universe without the need for a Creator", he is actually quite consistent with Christian theology. If God created the universe and with it all physical laws and science to go with it, it would be a rather imperfect creation if it couldn't explain its own existence. It is also a common understanding among religious thinkers that God intended for his existence to be unprovable by science (otherwise it would eliminate the need for faith). If the universe could not be explained without the invoking the existence of a divine being, then this could serve as a sort of proof of God's existence.On a further note, I'd like to point out that so many people like to pit science against religion, when in fact a person of faith realizes that science is just another part of creation and is serving the purpose for which it was intended.[/citation]

Beautifully said. I really wish more of my religious friends would recognize this, but ultimately it's science vs god to them. Even though I'm an atheist, I never understood why the two had to be mutually exclusive.

 

[liveonc]

[citation][nom]rhangman[/nom]So god created this entire universe (maybe more) just for us on this one planet? Seems somewhat redundant.God was created by us out of ignorance and fear. Makes sense that as we become more enlightened that God becomes less important. Long way to go on that front though and just like any powerful regime those behind the various religions don't want to let go. Much better if the majority of the population continues to live in ignorance and fear.[/citation]

Atheist Communism the solution? I though it was a problem, for a very long time. They made so many statues, it was as if they though Stalin was...

Is that your view of Utopia? A place where Mankind lived in "freedom"? Or maybe you prefer Satanism? A place where you join a cult that uses Religion as a way of avoiding having to pay tax, sign up people who are legally bound to pay every single cent they used of funds "The Church" owns (but lent you), spending a life as legally indentured servants for the rest of their li(e)ves, only to go back & forth to get psychological re-motivation every time they even think about leaving or squealing about what Satanism really is about?

 

[azcoyote]

♫...
"People of the Earth can you hear me, came a voice from the sky on that magical night...."...♫

 

[namecnassianer]

georgec666
@namecnassianer. I think you spell it without the capital "D"

I Don't, but Wiki does.

 

[nforce4max]

[citation][nom]liveonc[/nom]Maybe Europe invented Marxism, but Americans invented Fast Food. So who has more blood on their hands & who cares if people like(d) Ivan & Ivan went broke? That's not Socialism, that was Communism, where nobody owned a thing, people turned in their own family, Stalin got a burial, & Lenin was put on display.[/citation]

So fast food has killed more than 91.5million in the Soviet Union and 70+million in Maoist China?

 

[nforce4max]

[citation][nom]rhangman[/nom]So god created this entire universe (maybe more) just for us on this one planet? Seems somewhat redundant.God was created by us out of ignorance and fear. Makes sense that as we become more enlightened that God becomes less important. Long way to go on that front though and just like any powerful regime those behind the various religions don't want to let go. Much better if the majority of the population continues to live in ignorance and fear.[/citation]

For those under Islam it is out of fear and for the rest they are deliberately deceived to keep them in spiritual bondage.

 

[nforce4max]

[citation][nom]smlong426[/nom]"God may exist, but science can explain the universe without the need for a Creator."That's obviously an answer to avoid criticism and debate. For example, nearly half of Americans believe the earth is only ~ 10,000 years old despite contrary empirical evidence. I presume this is due to a religious slant on the matter. I would avoid any theological debate as well, as theologians are immune to logic and reason.[/citation]

Pity another soul to the institutionalized indoctrination camp called a university ware Marxist professors spew forth their lies. Only a fool believes the world is only that old when human civilization has been around much longer. Most overlook those 17,000 year old ruins in south America.

 

[jgiron]

"God may exist, but science can explain the universe without the need for a Creator."
Steve, God does exist but many people put their own god in place of the Almighty. In your case I believe you have made science your god and made science the center of your life.

I respect you as a person and as intellectual and I agree with you that we should explore space.

 

[nforce4max]

[citation][nom]Dr Righteous[/nom]This argument is silly. Science CANNOT address the metaphysical realm. You cannot measure or study something that transcends this physical realm. But to say "it doesn't exist" has no bearing on the physical world is pretty presumptuous.[/citation]

Most intelligent thing I have read thus far today. For many people these days they only present what they have been "programed" with thinking that it is of their own thoughts. Small minds small world, some reject God while others believe they are God which is total lunacy. They may never grasp even the though of metaphysical realm much less understand.

 

[Trueno07]

[citation][nom]husker[/nom]On a further note, I'd like to point out that so many people like to pit science against religion, when in fact a person of faith realizes that science is just another part of creation and is serving the purpose for which it was intended.[/citation]

As an Engineering Student and a Christian, this is exactly how I see it.

 

[tomaz99]

[citation][nom]deletemach_kernel[/nom]Mans' very need to prove that is the most supreme being with utmost power has always led us to believe that we dont need this God creature. But let us assume for a second that he did create the universe, which means that he must have also created science to help us understand what we have inherited. Man still cant stop his death and never will. That is sort of the last laugh. In 100 years non of us will exist to argue about whether hawkins is right or wrong. In that time some other bloke will have come up with newer theories claiming that hawkins theories are wrong (just like there are scientist now cliaming Darwin's theory is flawed).so in essence we need to understand that "if" God exists, he would not have been dumb enough to stop at life on one planet ... the universe is vast and we must explore it for newer life forms. especially since we have the great hindu habit of destroying our own surroundings.he is right about finding a new planet to sustain life... face the fact . Sooner or later some idiot (american or not) will launch a nuke and kill us all...ditto for save mother earth. what we are actually trying to say is, we must save ourselves from the destruction we are causing mother earth. Because when she has had enough she will wip us out with a variety of natural calamities. Man has never had the power to save mother earth nor will he ever. It is actually the other way around.that is why we must find newer places in space to live. For someday Earth will still exist, but it wont welcome the ungrateful "Human" anymore.[/citation]

Wow…talk about Gaia worship. “…welcome the ungrateful Human anymore”; could you anthropomorphize a big hunk of rock anymore

What we need is to placate the angry mother with some blood sacrifices; the highest form of worship is to volunteer

Amazing how ‘modern’ thought is eerily reminiscent of ancient pagans.

 

[tomaz99]

[citation][nom]rohitbaran[/nom]I say, all CEOs should be kicked off the planet![/citation]

Agreed…those bastards.

I’m personally never going to start a company and hire people at an agreed upon wage; how could I look myself in the mirror?

What we need is for the government to run our companies. This way we could avoid any future unpleasantness.