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because Apple's customer support is soooooooooooo much better...... not acknowledging issues, now where have i seen that before, i must not be remembering correctly.....
because Apple's customer support is soooooooooooo much better...... not acknowledging issues, now where have i seen that before, i must not be remembering correctly.....
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This looks rather promising for once... It only leaves out the issue of price, really. Battery-life-wise, I'd estimate it'd likely equate the iPad, as it appears the TP will be comparably hungry, and while Apple has been tight-lipped a bit on the exact capacity of the iPad's battery, 6300 mAh seems to be about right. (though I've seen some 5400 mAh figures)
One problem previously is that really, a lot of makers have been missing the mark: tablet PCs have been around for YEARS, and have conventionally been hyper-expensive devices that packed laptop functionality with a touchscreen into a smaller form-factor than a laptop. This obviously wasn't a huge market: the iPad targetted an entirely DIFFERENT market, by making it a consumer electronic device, one that'd sell to people that didn't really need it. (such as the iPhone making a market selling smartphones to people that never really needed more than, say, a RAZR could provide)
Since the iPad's launch, we've seen a huge slew of purported "iPad killers," that all failed: and I predicted their failure each time. Why'd they fail? They all weren't correctly targetted. For things like the Slate, it was really just a revision of the old "business device" tablet: high-powered, PC-equivalency, with a price to match. Similarly, other devices could fail for being TOO cheap, and, in their race to the bottom, actually wind up cutting off things to make them equal to the iPad.
The iPad WILL eventually lose its market place, just like Apple's desktop/laptop businesses are has-beens, and the iPhone is now headed toward as well. Simply put, they produce a not-the-best product and demand a premium price for it: hence they're limited, in the long-term, to a niche market that goes for their aesthetics and formfactor.
The iPad is no exception. However, it'll take a device that manages to be SLIGHTLY superior in capabilities to it (enough to be noticeable) while also being CHEAPER, to really start to burst Apple's Hype Bubble, especially with Steve Jobs' RDF fueling it. In this day and age, it will take a device that never fails to at least match or beat the iPad on ALL fronts: it must be hands-down equal or superior in everything, so it can't make one trade-off to be "really good" at a bunch of things.
So far, I think the TouchPad stands to be the first tablet properly positioned to make a successful strike. If it can get equal battery life, and come in at a comparable price, the advantages in capabilities will make it a clear winner.
[citation][nom]theshonen8899[/nom]I am not a fan of Apple products. However, when has anyone ever said the statement, "[Insert gimmick here] will be an [insert successful Apple product here] killer!" and been completely right?[/citation]
Well, I don't think that statement was really popular back in earlier times... But last I knew, the Generic WinTel platform was pretty good at utterly exterminating Apple's success in the PC market... And Apple has only started seeing any modicum of success again once they opted to be assimilated into that same architecture: they now use Intel processors, and the capability of using Windows is now a SELLING POINT.
One problem previously is that really, a lot of makers have been missing the mark: tablet PCs have been around for YEARS, and have conventionally been hyper-expensive devices that packed laptop functionality with a touchscreen into a smaller form-factor than a laptop. This obviously wasn't a huge market: the iPad targetted an entirely DIFFERENT market, by making it a consumer electronic device, one that'd sell to people that didn't really need it. (such as the iPhone making a market selling smartphones to people that never really needed more than, say, a RAZR could provide)
Since the iPad's launch, we've seen a huge slew of purported "iPad killers," that all failed: and I predicted their failure each time. Why'd they fail? They all weren't correctly targetted. For things like the Slate, it was really just a revision of the old "business device" tablet: high-powered, PC-equivalency, with a price to match. Similarly, other devices could fail for being TOO cheap, and, in their race to the bottom, actually wind up cutting off things to make them equal to the iPad.
The iPad WILL eventually lose its market place, just like Apple's desktop/laptop businesses are has-beens, and the iPhone is now headed toward as well. Simply put, they produce a not-the-best product and demand a premium price for it: hence they're limited, in the long-term, to a niche market that goes for their aesthetics and formfactor.
The iPad is no exception. However, it'll take a device that manages to be SLIGHTLY superior in capabilities to it (enough to be noticeable) while also being CHEAPER, to really start to burst Apple's Hype Bubble, especially with Steve Jobs' RDF fueling it. In this day and age, it will take a device that never fails to at least match or beat the iPad on ALL fronts: it must be hands-down equal or superior in everything, so it can't make one trade-off to be "really good" at a bunch of things.
So far, I think the TouchPad stands to be the first tablet properly positioned to make a successful strike. If it can get equal battery life, and come in at a comparable price, the advantages in capabilities will make it a clear winner.
[citation][nom]theshonen8899[/nom]I am not a fan of Apple products. However, when has anyone ever said the statement, "[Insert gimmick here] will be an [insert successful Apple product here] killer!" and been completely right?[/citation]
Well, I don't think that statement was really popular back in earlier times... But last I knew, the Generic WinTel platform was pretty good at utterly exterminating Apple's success in the PC market... And Apple has only started seeing any modicum of success again once they opted to be assimilated into that same architecture: they now use Intel processors, and the capability of using Windows is now a SELLING POINT.
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[citation][nom]secolliyn[/nom]In all honesty nothing is going to be an I-pad killer and before you all accuse me of being an apple fanboy I'm not i own nothing of apple i simply state that nothings going to kill the Ipad because of the application market and how many apps are already available for it... Thats the only reason this is alot better and it's great how it seems to all work together i mean this has a chance to be a big competitor for not a killer what these things need to really start doing is storing things in the cloud i mean the first one to do that and only put 4Gb in one can lower the cost and have a yearly fee for a cloud service for additional GB in the service so you can potentially store all your music and files there and just use them as needed[/citation]
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Palms operating system is better than ipads ios, its that simple. From real multitasking to real printing. Its also easier. Apples hardware is better than HP's its also that simple. HP vs Apple brand is like Mercedes vs Skoda, What HP needed to do was leave the cult like Palm branding and invest more in the hardware, you don't get multiple chances to take over market share, do it right the first time. Why the shitty screen, the plastic back, no 3g information, no battery information, I mean come on. I wish Amazon would have bought Palm OS they would have made it a winner. Hp has in their hands the best operating system but it looks like they will screw it up with low cost hardware and shitty marketing. They should have just loaned money to Palm instead of buying them.
1. USER EXPERIENCE! The iPAD is a product of Apple's long history in hardware and software design. Everyone who has used the iPAD appreciates the simple user interface and its smooth operation.
2. PRICE. How can you beat the iPAD price? Apple sells it directly to their customers through their Apple stores so they can sell it at a lower cost without sacrificing quality.
3. APPS and SUPPORT. Apple has a well established ecosystem of software and hardware support for it's product. iTunes for music and Video. App Store for applications and games. Online support.
4. BATTERY LIFE. Apple has invested millions on battery design. Now if any tablet can really prove a longer battery life, I might consider.
5. ACCESSORIES. There's a lot out there. Bluetooth keyboards.Cases. Stands. You name it.
A superior hardware isn't proof of a superior user experience. iPAD has already proven that and is getting better every year.
2. PRICE. How can you beat the iPAD price? Apple sells it directly to their customers through their Apple stores so they can sell it at a lower cost without sacrificing quality.
3. APPS and SUPPORT. Apple has a well established ecosystem of software and hardware support for it's product. iTunes for music and Video. App Store for applications and games. Online support.
4. BATTERY LIFE. Apple has invested millions on battery design. Now if any tablet can really prove a longer battery life, I might consider.
5. ACCESSORIES. There's a lot out there. Bluetooth keyboards.Cases. Stands. You name it.
A superior hardware isn't proof of a superior user experience. iPAD has already proven that and is getting better every year.
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