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On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 10:08:59 -0600, bumblebee
<crystalvideo@starband.net> wrote:
>Isn't Nagra what Dish uses and didn't they change cards a year or so
>ago? Was that Nagra 2? Are they backward compatable since they
>didn't replace existing cards? Will they replace all cards if
>"Nagra2" is implemented?
>bumblebee
>
Yes, Dish (and ExpressVu) use Nagra. Neither have implemented a major
card swap that I am aware of. Both providers are issuing the N2 cards
with new receivers and built in tothe "cardless" units. They are dual
transmitting N1 and N2 streams right now, I don't think the N2 card
has backward compatability with the N1 stream.
>On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:54:07 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:24:50 -0400, Gary Tait
>><classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:56:30 -0400, "DVB-Card.com"
>>><newsgroups@dvb-card.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>We supply DVB PCI cards and DVB receivers. These satellite components will
>>>>allow you to receive free to air satellite signals from many satellite
>>>>transmissions around the world.
>>>>
>>>>All M.O. and Paypal purchases include shipping....
>>>>
>>>>Come have a look www.dvb-card.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>That vendor is selling pirate DVB receivers to tohe intent onstealing
>>>Nagra encrypted channels.
>>
>>For a rip off price too!!
>>
>>>
>>>The truth is that the Pansat 2500 and its Fortec cousin don't have
>>>Nagra security, just hacked firmware to steal nagra encrypted
>>>programming.
>>
>>
>>They sure do, and do it well!
>>
>>The best part of this deal is the 2500 and ULTRA are awesome
>>receivers. When Nagra2 hits in a few months, the freeTV'rs will regard
>>them as an old F, H or HU card. In other words, worthless.
>>I for one can't wait to have twenty or so 2500's on my rack!!
>>
>>
/www.grisoft.com).
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