Mozilla Joins EU Antitrust Case Against Microsoft

[Guest]

The problem is definitely not that IE is included with Windows. It is 3 things.
1.)That it is a required part of the functionality of Windows.
2.)Internet Explorer uses its own encoding standards for web pages
3.)Microsoft paid outfits like Hp, Compaq(When they weren't with HP), and Dell to not include Netscape with there machines.

So Microsoft was trying to force IE on users it didn't come out with a browser that shocked the world. It did everything it could to make sure people would use there browser.

 

[cruiseoveride]

[citation][nom]htoonthura[/nom]Why everyone is picking on Microsoft? Let MS grow. If you do not like IE, you have all the options to choose different browsers. It is ridiculous.[/citation]

Haha you got to be kidding me.

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]rocky1234[/nom]Are they kidding...[/citation]
The EU never kid, this is serious business!

 

[Guest]

What I want to know is on whose behalf is the EC doing this? Last time I checked virtually no one bought Windows-N (google it if you don't know). IE's market fraction erodes every year besides. What's the point?

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]Gemi[/nom]What I want to know is on whose behalf is the EC doing this?[/citation]
There's an economic crisis you know. Money has to come from somewhere.

[citation][nom]Curnel_D[/nom]You cant blame microsoft for the general computer consumer's unwillingness to be educated.[/citation]
I think it's both unwillingness and inability. There's so few pople who know anything, it's hard to make a difference. For those that can be educated, many would rather use "name brand" software than something from a "suspicious" company like Mozilla or Opera.

 

[Gazz]

And then if we do get a choice at the start and we choose a none IE brouser trhen we end up with all this add ware crap I prefure Ie because it is straight forward I hate adds i hate being forced to use and see things I dont want to
And I carnt see why Microsoft should have to promotwe another compony on there OS those other explorers are only a buch of scabbs sucking the life blood out of the body
This reminds me of what happened in Australia we had one big telecomunication gov owned then they were forced to let other smaller componies use there comunication lines they were then forced to stop there expantion which by now we would have had fiber optics suprying our hole nation Instead the compony got soled out we have all these small bullsit componies doing there free enterprise crap
I hate microsfts way bring out there OS with half baiked windows with the choise of 6 different OS now we will have to choose 6 different IE microsoft own or fyerfox crap
For me the simpler and more streamline the beter

 

[randomizer]

Gazz I think you have no idea what you're talking about. If you choose IE then you're gonna get hit with ads from all sides


Also, it's a good thing that Telstra was forced to let other companies use their lines. It's called competition. We would NEVER under any circumstance have fibre by now. NEVER. Telstra had a monopoly over the market, and even now they are unwilling to spend anything to upgrade the current infrastructure. We'd be better off if Telstra was dissolved altogether, they are the reason our internet is as bad as it is.

 

[Guest]

People blame shit that belong as their fault on IE. Frankly an uptodate IE8 RC1 is probably more secure then FF is currently, FF is shit for security if it was about that then opera who has consistally had better results should be used. Any idiot can get ad wear shoved all over their computer when they aren't active in preventing it. Frankly FF would be even worse for those who don't know what they are doing alot of FF so call perfect security comes from ad-ons in which they would have to seek out and install.

 

[Guest]

after EU is done with MS, sue Apple for including Safari and iWhatevers for being anticompetitive. This is only fair.

 

[Guest]

I agree wholeheartedly with the EU, the included IE is really unnecessary and superfluous. In another news, my car came with a steering wheel supplied by the company. What an evil thing to do, think of all the makers of after-market steering wheels, they should be given the opportunity too! I demand that the car comes without the steering wheel so I can choose! Or better, have the company buy wheels from aftermarket companies, stock them at company expenses and then offer them to me. And also brakes. And seats. And engine. And...

 

[enforcer22]

The only way it can be anti competative is if MS wouldnt alow the install of other browers. seriesly wtf are they doing? I personaly like IE more then the other browsers but if i want to use another one MS better damn well let me. If they wouldnt i would be on the EU side here but otherwise it sounds like a bunch of whinny ass kids.

 

[gbean02]

OK, I invent a product. It becomes the most popular in the world,because the competition has not caught up yet. Later, someone doesn't like parts used in my updated product. That someone then gets the government to force me to remove parts, that have been there for about the entire life of the product. GOOD JOB EU!!!!!!

 

[Gazz]

look I dont like Microsoft with the way that they do try to monopolise things which is what big componies can do like the issue with opengl left on the backburner while directx is getting more then its share
they made a product just like Apple and now other people are telling them what they can and carnt do with it
if they want do winge and moan and carry on then do something constructive and buid up linux to be better instead of being destructive
and your wrong about telstra we had 3 covernment compoies doing our telecomunicationd and the government downdraided it and sold it of being the capitol buggers they are no in its day it was great like our railways another one gone (the tall poppy sindrome )
forgive my spelling its a fact or life
GAZZ

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]Curnel_D[/nom]Now they have a browser with unknown security and capabilities when all they wanted was what they're used to.[/citation]
So they picked what they didn't want? That's their problem. They should stick to what they are familiar with. There is no need for sales reps to push other browsers relentlessly, just to give them the option and give a quick rundown on each. Most people will probably still choose IE because 1) They don't know what an ad blocker is and how much nicer pages look without flashing banners, and 2) because they use IE already.

 

[AndrewMD]

As much as I hear about the EU, the more it makes me sick that the EU has THAT much power.

I don't care that IE installed on my Windows instalation. I have FF installed. I use IE when FF doesn't work.

BTW there are many applications that have web interfaces that DO NOT work with FF, it is not Microsoft's fault for that, it is the company that designs the web interface.

Should Microsoft remove IE from being intertwined in the OS, yes.
Just so they can stop the BS with countries wanting a peice of their pie.

But Microsoft shouldn't have to bundle competitor copies, that's what system integrators are for. (Dell, Sony, Lenovo)

IE should always be part of the OS but as a program that can be uninstalled.