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Does memory for sat-positions and virtual maps held in memory that is
volatile that is charged via Caps?

Keep loosing sat-positions and virtual maps on 920 unit, and I suspect
the Caps
 
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> Does memory for sat-positions and virtual maps held in memory that is
> volatile that is charged via Caps?
>
> Keep loosing sat-positions and virtual maps on 920 unit, and I suspect
> the Caps

Have you tried a soft reset? While turned off on G0 13 unplug for thirty
seconds and plug in and leave for thirty minuets, then turn on. This solves
many problems.

What causes TDT Overflow?
http://anubis.macross.com/~drlev/2985.45.htm

What is the maximum TDT count and how do I know my TDT count?
http://anubis.macross.com/~drlev/16185.3.htm
 
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:04:28 -0500, NewSun@sunsets.org wrote:

>
>Does memory for sat-positions and virtual maps held in memory that is
>volatile that is charged via Caps?
>
>Keep loosing sat-positions and virtual maps on 920 unit, and I suspect
>the Caps


I'd be happy the UID was still good and hurry up and change the
lithium battery!! I have no idea if there is caps as well for
something, but every 4dtv 920 I ever saw do that shortly had a
scrambled UID making it worthless for digital.
I hope someone else has something to add.
 
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:30:04 -0700, "Stop Humpin' My Leg Dawg!!"
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>> Does memory for sat-positions and virtual maps held in memory that is
>> volatile that is charged via Caps?

>> Keep loosing sat-positions and virtual maps on 920 unit, and I suspect
>> the Caps

>Have you tried a soft reset?

This is not the problem; this 920 unit looses only maps/positions. I
know how to reset it, but you have to re-programm the sat-positions
[limits are lost too] and let it set on G0-13 overnight. Analog comes
in fine, but digital maps are wasted. Hence,

1. Limits need resetting
2. Sats need re-programmed
3. Park it overnight at G0-13

Digital ID is OK; I've done this several times
 
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:22:01 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:

>I'd be happy the UID was still good

Nothing wrong with ID, works fine.
 
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>>> Does memory for sat-positions and virtual maps held in memory that is
>>> volatile that is charged via Caps?
>
>>> Keep loosing sat-positions and virtual maps on 920 unit, and I suspect
>>> the Caps
>
>>Have you tried a soft reset?
>
> This is not the problem; this 920 unit looses only maps/positions. I
> know how to reset it, but you have to re-programm the sat-positions
> [limits are lost too] and let it set on G0-13 overnight. Analog comes
> in fine, but digital maps are wasted. Hence,
>
> 1. Limits need resetting
> 2. Sats need re-programmed
> 3. Park it overnight at G0-13
>
> Digital ID is OK; I've done this several times

The TDT count may be maxed out.
Go to diagnostics screen G to see what the TDT (Transponder Data Table)
count is, when it reaches 1920 strange things can happen. You have to do a
master reset to fix this and reprogram the reciever from scratch.

To get to the diagnosis screen do options 6, 0, 5 and push the left arrow
key once to get to diagnosis screen G. In the middle of the top line is a
four digit number, if it is 1920 you have to do a master reset.

Master reset:
While on G0 13 do options 6, 778, 7

To reprogram:
Just a few words about programming your new 4DTV satellite receiver. As you
may know, the receiver may be programmed a number of different ways. What we
will attempt to do here is get you "started on the right foot", so to speak.
The whole process can be done very easily if you begin your programming
using satellite G9 in the menu. If this satellite is stored correctly first,
all of the rest of the satellites will just fall into place very easily.
Before you begin mapping in the receiver on a digital channel, the receiver
will not have all of the satellites available in the menu, and the digital
channels will not be available.

Here is what to do: if you are replacing a receiver that works, move it to
satellite G10. At this writing channel 24 has the Out Door Channel and
channel 23 is A&E. This is where we will begin our programming. We will
assume that you have followed the wiring diagram in the book, and everything
there is correct. When you attempt to move the dish, pushing the right arrow
button should move the dish in a Westerly direction. If it goes East,
transpose the M1 and M2 leads. Now we are ready to begin.

With the power switch "on", push OPTIONS 6-4. Push ENTER on YES to allow
dish movement for updates. Now push 2 and select your actuator type. If you
are East of the Rockies, normally the actuator is mounted on the West side
of the dish and the dish goes West as it retracts, so select LINEAR/WEST.
Those on the West coast select LINEAR/EAST. Now push 2. If you have only a
C-band system, push the left arrow (next to the big blue ENTER button) and
scroll through the LNB types until you get C-band LNB. If you have C and Ku
on your system, that is the factory default. Push GO BACK, then push 3 and
the set limit menu will show up. At this point, you don't set limits yet,
push 3 again which is program satellites (under the set limit menu). Now you
get a partial list of satellites. Move the yellow highlighting to satellite
G9 and push ENTER.

You will now have a menu allowing you to move the dish and adjust the skew.
Since the unit is not mapped yet, you can use the channel "up/down" button
on the right side of the remote to scroll down to channel 24. Now you should
have the Outdoor Channel visible on the right side of the menu. If the
picture is not clear, adjust skew or dish position to make it clear. HERE IS
THE IMPORTANT PART. If the channel is not visible, DO NOT adjust the skew to
get it because if you do, you will probably have to adjust the skew on all
the rest of the satellites as well. What you want to do is push OPTION 6-4-2
and at the bottom of this menu, for feed horn polarization, select "rotated
90 degrees" and push ENTER. You will now have video visible around the edges
of this menu. Push GO BACK, push 3, set limits and 3 again, program
satellites. G9 will be highlighted, push enter and you will have the menu
that allows moving the dish and adjusting the skew. You may peak up the
picture at this point if necessary.

When you get a clear picture, push GO BACK, push ENTER to save G9. Now you
will have a menu showing the satellites with G9 highlighted in yellow. Push
ENTER and you will be back on the menu allowing dish and skew adjustments.
Use the channel "up/down" button to scroll down to channel 23. This is A&E
and you should get a good signal here-it is a VideoCipher pay channel.
Adjust the skew if necessary to get a good signal then push GO BACK and
ENTER to store G9 again. Now you have stored G9 on both polarities and all
of the rest of the satellites will program in very easily. Generally
speaking, when you look at the menu which allows dish and skew adjustments,
the H and V numbers for the skew should be one positive and one negative and
they should be about 90 degrees apart. For instance if H is 60 then V should
be about -30. Or if H is 45 then V should be about -45 etc. If there is no
ability to adjust the skew in the menu, you have selected LNBF for your LNB
type.

Now using the channel-" up/down" button on the right side of the remote,
scroll down to either channel 7 or 13. You should observe a "quality" number
in the lower right part of the menu. Digital channels need a 15 for a
minimum quality. Now you let the unit "map in" the missing satellites and
the digital channels. This will take about 15 to 20 minutes. You can go to
the system status menu, OPTION 6-5 and observe the channel count in the
lower right. It will increment up to something over 4000 channels. The final
channel count is variable, and will not reach the maximum until the latest
firm ware gets loaded, usually after the first 24 hours of operation. At
this point if you have not called your programmer and had the digital
channels authorized, it would be a good time to do so. Let the receiver sit
on channel 7 for about 15 to 20 minutes to map. Until it is authorized and
mapped, no digital channels will be available, the guide will not work and
the clock will have incorrect time.

After the mapping is done, you can begin programming in the satellites under
the set limits menu. Program them one at a time moving West until the
Western most satellite is stored, then set the West limit. You will now have
the ability to use the EZ sat locator. Simply go to the set limit menu, pick
# 3, program satellites, and highlight W2 on the East, push enter, then push
#1 on the remote and the dish should then automatically move to this
satellite. Caution: you MUST know how far the dish can travel to the East
without getting stuck or becoming damaged. If you don't know, set the limit
short and get help setting the limit from your local dealer.

After you have several satellites stored, and the limits set, the EZ sat
locator will find all of the other satellites for you. Simply go to the
program satellite menu, option 6-4-4, highlight the satellite you want to
store and push enter. Then push 1 on the remote and the dish will move to
that satellite. When it stops, push go back, and enter to save it. Go on to
the next satellite.

UPDATED 11 / 00
T. RAUSCHER
 
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:58:13 -0700, "Stop Humpin' My Leg Dawg!!"
<scram@anon.com> wrote:


>After the mapping is done, you can begin programming in the satellites under
>the set limits menu. Program them one at a time moving West until the
>Western most satellite is stored, then set the West limit. You will now have
>the ability to use the EZ sat locator. Simply go to the set limit menu, pick
># 3, program satellites, and highlight W2 on the East, push enter, then push
>#1 on the remote and the dish should then automatically move to this
>satellite. Caution: you MUST know how far the dish can travel to the East
>without getting stuck or becoming damaged. If you don't know, set the limit
>short and get help setting the limit from your local dealer.


FWIW, you can walk outside with the remote on east limit to avoid
flipping the dish over. :)

It is even better if you can see it from the window...
 
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:11:38 -0500, NewSun@sunsets.org wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:22:01 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>
>>I'd be happy the UID was still good
>
>Nothing wrong with ID, works fine.

The voltage threshold of the SRAM chip could be lower that the
security chip, hence SRAM settings being lost but the UID retained,
surely indicating a dying battery that need replaced.
 
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:26:30 -0400, Gary Tait
<classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:

>The voltage threshold of the SRAM chip could be lower that the
>security chip, hence SRAM settings being lost but the UID retained,
>surely indicating a dying battery that need replaced.

Long story short, dealer sat on this unit for about a year, after
customer "gave" it to him. It had been sent for repair, but same
problem [Hence, Caps?]. I acquired it for testing, and same problem
[looses limits, sat positions, and mapping]. Dealer sold this to
someone I know, and I have to reset it via recharging maps and setting
limits/sat_positions. Everything works fine, and person receives HBO
just fine. No Master Reset is needed, just limits, sats, and park-it
on G0-13.

Person has arc-welder, and maybe when he runs arc-welder this trips
the problem. I have installed good ground with surge protector. Now,
I am trying a computer surge/battery_backup to see if this cures it.

His home is older farm house, and when welder turns on/etc., the
lights dim inside house.
 
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:40:08 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:

>FWIW, you can walk outside with the remote on east limit to avoid
>flipping the dish over. :)

thanks, but limits are set on actuator arm; actually, I can see dish
from inside house.
 
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:19:07 -0500, NewSun@sunsets.org wrote:

>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:26:30 -0400, Gary Tait
><classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
>
>>The voltage threshold of the SRAM chip could be lower that the
>>security chip, hence SRAM settings being lost but the UID retained,
>>surely indicating a dying battery that need replaced.
>
>Long story short, dealer sat on this unit for about a year, after
>customer "gave" it to him. It had been sent for repair, but same
>problem [Hence, Caps?]. I acquired it for testing, and same problem
>[looses limits, sat positions, and mapping]. Dealer sold this to
>someone I know, and I have to reset it via recharging maps and setting
>limits/sat_positions. Everything works fine, and person receives HBO
>just fine. No Master Reset is needed, just limits, sats, and park-it
>on G0-13.
>
>Person has arc-welder, and maybe when he runs arc-welder this trips
>the problem. I have installed good ground with surge protector. Now,
>I am trying a computer surge/battery_backup to see if this cures it.
>
>His home is older farm house, and when welder turns on/etc., the
>lights dim inside house.
>


My lights flicker when I use my arc welder, and it has never bothered
my 920 or my 922, neither does power cuts.


Good luck, at least you will be good at programming 4DTV's when it is
over. :)
 
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:19:48 -0500, NewSun@sunsets.org wrote:

>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:40:08 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>
>>FWIW, you can walk outside with the remote on east limit to avoid
>>flipping the dish over. :)
>
>thanks, but limits are set on actuator arm; actually, I can see dish
>from inside house.


That is rare....both items!
 
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:02:23 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>Good luck, at least you will be good at programming 4DTV's when it is
>over. :)

I guess nobody knows if 920 unit uses "Caps" for memory?

Only Limits, Sat-Position, & digital maps are affected.
 
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:42:40 -0500, NewSun@sunsets.org wrote:

>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:02:23 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>>Good luck, at least you will be good at programming 4DTV's when it is
>>over. :)
>
>I guess nobody knows if 920 unit uses "Caps" for memory?
>
>Only Limits, Sat-Position, & digital maps are affected.


If it did, someone in here would know it. I would take a voltage
reading from the on board battery. If it is within specs I would
suspect a bad memory chip or some other hard to repair problem.
 
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:42:40 -0500, NewSun@sunsets.org wrote:

>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:02:23 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:
>>Good luck, at least you will be good at programming 4DTV's when it is
>>over. :)
>
>I guess nobody knows if 920 unit uses "Caps" for memory?
>
>Only Limits, Sat-Position, & digital maps are affected.

It doesn't need to, it has a litihum battery.
 
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>>Good luck, at least you will be good at programming 4DTV's when it is
>>over. :)
>
> I guess nobody knows if 920 unit uses "Caps" for memory?
>
> Only Limits, Sat-Position, & digital maps are affected.

From your response you seem to indicate that you know more than me, so I am
through trying to help you.

Luck
 
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:22:01 -0400, kryppy <kryppy@.> wrote:

>>Keep loosing sat-positions and virtual maps on 920 unit, and I suspect
>>the Caps

Correction - Just the Sat Postions and Limits are lost. 920 unit
works fine, except for loosing Sat Postions and Limits.

I forgot on 920 unit, you have to be authorized to see virtual
channels.
 
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